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- Hilarious that a cutting edge solution (document embedding and search) from 5-6 years ago was their last resort.
- Doubly hilarious that "throw more AI at it" surprised them when it didn't work.
Then let's say that OpenAI brute forced this without any meta-optimization of the hypothesized search component (they just set a compute budget). This is probably low hanging fruit and another 2x in compute reduction. ($850)
Then let's say that OpenAI was pushing really really hard for the numbers and was willing to burn cash and so didn't bother with serious thought around hardware aware distributed inference. This could be more than a 2x decrease in cost like we've seen deliver 10x reductions in cost via better attention mechanisms, but let's go with 2x for now. ($425).
So I think we've got about an 8x reduction in cost sitting there once Google steps up. This is probably 4-6 months of work flat out if they haven't already started down this path, but with what they've got with deep research, maybe it's sooner?
Then if "all" we get is hardware improvements we're down to what 10-14 years?
These regulations have reasonable origins because as a mandated product it's pretty tempting to price gouge, but there's no exception for circumstances where the price really should be 3x the historical cost.
Imagine you're on vacation and have lost your phone. You want to go to a cafe and log into a chat app, an email service, whatever to contact your family. In the world that passkey advocates want this is impossible via the passkey flow. If you can't authenticate via a primary device that contains your private key, you're f-ed. Service providers know this so of course they will provide recovery mechanisms. (Not consistent recovery mechanisms of course, each will have their own convoluted and likely to be broken ones). If the recovery mechanism allows for knowledge based recovery (challenge questions) then you're basically telling people that they need N passwords rather than one password. Maybe that challenge question is just a long password (recovery key). Maybe it requires access to another system, which you likely don't have in this circumstance. So you're either back to having passwords, or you're f-ed. Security theater or a disaster.
A service only has value if I can access it. I should be able to sit down at any computer in the world with the knowledge in my head and get access to any online service to which I subscribe.
I suspect as LLM reliance increases we'll want to align the models to our experience more closely. I further suspect this will make the errors that models make more comprehensible.
The primary argument is hedonistic. The author is arguing that the state of mind created by reading books is what's valuable, and not the content.
This infuriating for me. This is like writing an article in defense of pistachio ice cream. The author has a sensation they enjoy that they want more people to enjoy. I would have trouble coming up with a more trivializing case for physical books. You might as well just talk about the joy of the smell of old books. It's pleasurable, unique, and completely missing on the internet.
The author fails to connect that pleasurable sensation to anything meaningful and so can be easily dismissed.
Whereas other writers, ones the author quotes even, have pointed out how long form content trains concentration, short and long term memory, and critical thought, this author fails to convince that books are anything more than a warm blanket for the mind.
The best engineering minds have been focused on scaling transformer pre and post training for the last three years because they had good reason to believe it would work, and it has up until now.
Progress has been measured against benchmarks which are / were largely solvable with scale.
There is another emerging paradigm which is still small(er) scale but showing remarkable results. That's full multi-modal training with embodied agents (aka robots). 1x, Figure, Physical Intelligence, Tesla are all making rapid progress on functionality which is definitely beyond frontier LLMs because it is distinctly different.
OpenAI/Google/Anthropic are not ignorant of this trend and are also reviving or investing in robots or robot-like research.
So while Orion and Claude 3.5 opus may not be another shocking giant leap forward, that does not mean that there arn't giant shocking leaps forward coming from slightly different directions.
Could this tool get a command from the LLM which would result in file-loss? How would you prevent that?
The ideal 'progress' on this benchmark is for a model to remove incorrect answers and replace them with I don't know answers. Even if it hurts the correct answer count a bit I'd gladly make that tradeoff for a model that hallucinated far less often.
In this therapy a combination of visual and audio input as well as external control over the behavior of the Voice allows for a feedback mechanism which does not exist otherwise.