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iateanapple··on Montreal is taxing churches (2017)
> So your telling me that churches are value for money?

Incredible value for money - 90% of the services provided by our local church are staffed by unpaid volunteers who go above and beyond.

iateanapple··on Swedish epidemiology boss says questioned Covid-19 strategy seems to be working
> I also suspect that if you do the simple calculation "excess mortality minus confirmed COVID deaths", this will be an overestimate, because many COVID deaths are misclassified as something else, e.g. pneumonia.

I think it depends on the country - a lot of countries are labelling any deaths with COVID symptoms as COVID (even though the symptoms are common to other illnesses like the flu).

In these countries it will likely be an overestimate.

> In Slovakia, the total mortality this year is lower than in the comparable period during previous years.

Yes, COVID has been fairly benign in a lot of countries and a massive killer of the old in others.

iateanapple··on Swedish epidemiology boss says questioned Covid-19 strategy seems to be working
> But how do you know that the number is greater than the fraction of population killed by the coronavirus?

You can measure it. For example you can look at excess mortality in the UK and then look at what fraction of that excess mortality is directly attributed to COVID.

Lots of people are doing this kind of data analysis on twitter.

Of course the guesswork comes in when you try to imagine how people would have acted without a lockdown.

Without lockdown would people still have gone for non-essential medical checkups for example?

iateanapple··on Swedish epidemiology boss says questioned Covid-19 strategy seems to be working
> And that the country was happy with a much higher death rate. Sweden has less than half the population of Australia and they have had 5,667 deaths and Australia has had 128.

When Australia went into the first lockdown they had essentially no community transmission.

It is unclear that the lockdowns had any impact at all.

Now that there is significant community transmission in Melbourne we can see if the second lockdown is effective.

iateanapple··on Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)
> We're comparing lockdowns with what people actually do when you don't have a lockdown

As long as we are comparing with what people actually do when there is a lockdown.

This is what makes the data analysis so difficult - perhaps in some areas people actually followed lockdown rules - where I live basically nobody did.

Yet on paper we had similar lockdowns.

> Wouldn't this cause them to not do regular health checkups, etc. as well?

It doesn’t seem so - but it’s hard to know for sure because you are comparing different cultures and demographics.

Swedes kept going to routine checkups whereas Californians didn’t - but was that caused by the lockdowns or differences in culture?

Like I said in 12-18 months the data will be a lot clearer.

> [citation needed]

Follow Michael Levitt on Twitter - https://mobile.twitter.com/MLevitt_NP2013

> Comparing Sweden to the US is misleading

Yes, and so is comparing Sweden and Denmark - but you were happy to do that.

Latest excess deaths show Sweden is doing better than the European average - https://mobile.twitter.com/MLevitt_NP2013/status/12838142549...

> Well, there it is. The age of the people dying is only relevant if you don't care about the elderly. You should be ashamed of yourself. Grow a conscience.

Nonsense - a 5 year old dying is completely different from an 80 year old dying.

That doesn’t mean I don’t care about the elderly.

> Lockdowns protect the old.

That’s not clear.

NYC for example has had a ruinous number of deaths in nursing homes.

Maybe you meant “Lockdowns are intended to protect the old”?

iateanapple··on Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)
> First: I think we can agree that house parties alone don't create as much social contact as house parties AND restaurants, salons, gyms, nonessential retailers, hotels, etc.

In places with much lighter lockdowns (or no lockdowns at all) we still had significant social distancing. It turns out most people don’t want to catch a deadly disease.

So we are comparing strict lockdowns compared with sensible social distancing - not with doing nothing.

There are strong arguments to be made, and we will have to see how they play out over the next 12-18 months, that strict lockdowns actually resulted in more deaths because the fear they induced stopped people from doing regular health checkups etc.

> The death rate in Sweden has now risen significantly higher than many other countries in Europe, reaching more than 22 per 100,000 people

There is endless misinformation being put out over COVID.

Comparing the other Nordic countries to Sweden is misleading because it was on a different trajectory before any lockdowns were implemented.

Note if you compare Sweden to the US it’s around half of the US rate per 100,000 despite lack of lockdowns.

Now the nice thing about Sweden is they have open data and accurate reporting of data - and so you can dive in and see that their total deaths haven’t changed significantly compared to prior years.

They have had ~100 excess deaths/week - and if you remove the older population (>65) then it’s basically 0 excess deaths/week.

It will be interesting next year to see if (as typically happens with the flu) we see significantly fewer total deaths - which would indicate for those 100/week excess deaths this year the total life lost per death was 1 year. But that’s just my speculation for now.

Edit: A clear trend is emerging that a countries deaths come down to two factors:

1) Ability to properly protect the old

See the failures in Italy and NYC as examples.

2) The overall health of your young population

See for example Singapore where the majority of infections were in young healthy men - and their corresponding tiny 26 deaths for ~45000 positive cases.

iateanapple··on Resignation Letter
> One is a statement made by a candidate that is at best insensitive to people of different races.

It sounds like the parent thought the dev wouldn’t fit in with the other team members and so didn’t hire him.

> The other is a poorly specified scenario where a black person does not fit in?

It’s hard to fit in when you are a small minority.

iateanapple··on Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)
> Case in point, New Zealand is COVID free.

Unlike NZ, the US can’t control its borders - as decades of uncontrolled illegal immigration has shown us.

iateanapple··on Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)
> And I'm saying, if you don't lock down, distancing doesn't happen.

First - our lockdowns were mostly unenforced (except against businesses).

Bars were closed but house parties raged.

Second - Sweden didn’t do lockdowns and yet people did practice social distancing.

iateanapple··on How do unschoolers turn out? (2014)
> Anecdotally, I was homeschooled and experienced all of these above

Unfortunately they seem part of the “normal” teen experience.

iateanapple··on Resignation Letter
They seem the same to me?

You are saying you wouldn’t hire them because they wouldn’t fit into your work culture right?

Or are you saying you wouldn’t hire them because you don’t like their beliefs?

iateanapple··on Resignation Letter
> I expect them to be judged on their merits of the job, not their country of origin or visa status.

So do I and so do the vast majority of people who want less immigration.

> and rejecting them for that is not "McCarthyism".

To be fair to the parent - it would be if you tried to make sure they weren’t hired anywhere.

You were making a biased and snap judgement about a candidate - but that happens a lot in the interview process - same as if you rejected an African American candidate because you didn’t think they would fit in.

What would you do if one of your existing employees was found to have that kind of twitter account?

iateanapple··on Resignation Letter
> I've become less and less liberal the past three months, for multiple reasons, and at least in my liberal bubble, i did not face any backlash.

A lot of people are becoming less liberal - your liberal bubble might be trending in the same direction.

iateanapple··on Resignation Letter
> Am I a McCarthyist for rejecting him outright without hesitation?

Yes.

Why can’t he have an opposing view from you on immigration?

I was on a visa and could still see the h1b program was being abused.

We often have less than ideal experiences with other cultural groups. That’s normal.

Is your work culture toxic because of your visa holders?

Would you refuse to hire feminist women because you had a mostly male team?

iateanapple··on How do unschoolers turn out? (2014)
> without addressing the issue of equal opportunity, which might be the biggest factor when designing education.

Why would that be a factor at all?

iateanapple··on How do unschoolers turn out? (2014)
> which can highlight some of the darker experiences, marked by extreme isolation, social anxiety, and depression

There are high rates of social isolation, social anxiety, and depression among school kids.

Close to 10% of teens have an anxiety disorder etc.

What would be interesting to know is are the home schooled rates significantly higher?

iateanapple··on How do unschoolers turn out? (2014)
> The parent commenter says "I personally experienced X and it was not great for me"

No. The parent commenter clearly mentioned “Never heard of this Unschool term”.

The parent commenter then went on to talk about their experience with a different topic - essentially lack of schooling.

Just because the names sound related doesn’t mean they are the same thing.

iateanapple··on How do unschoolers turn out? (2014)
> Well if you put it that way, of course hiring a private tutor on every subject is in now way worse than school.

I’m not sure what you are expecting?

Most subjects I can learn well enough to teach and help out but there are some I don’t have any talent for.

I’m saying the cost to cover those gaps is minimal and it is easy and effective.

I understand the ~$70/week I paid tutors is unaffordable for some - but it’s also a lot less than the $10k+/year my state spends per kid.

And it’s 1:1 or 1:2 tuition instead of 1:30.

iateanapple··on How do unschoolers turn out? (2014)
> I know I couldn't educate my kids to university enrollment standard other than in physics, maths and such.

Why not? And why would you have to?

I got my kids an English tutor and an Arts tutor once a week to help where I couldn’t.

College students are always looking for work so it didn’t cost a lot.

These days the amount of subject material on YouTube would allow your kids to self learn most subjects once they have the maturity required.

For example for drawing look at what self-taught artists are putting out with just an entry level Wacom tablet.

The exceptions would probably be language (speaking) and topics like carpentry which are very practical.

iateanapple··on Deschooling Society (1970)
> But what is the real-life practical alternative?

> But life is short and any art takes long to learn to sufficient depth that you can solve dynamic complex problems.

In the time I spent playing DOTA my brother learned Chinese AND learned enough about programming to get his first programming gig paying about $80k/year.

While it can take a long time, even a lifetime, to master a field you can get to a competent level surprisingly quickly.

iateanapple··on Redis Core Team Update
> Those are the only two options?

Do you have another reason a developer 10x better than her peers isn’t promoted to senior, to principal, etc?

iateanapple··on Redis Core Team Update
> Where have you all been?

The pressure on management to hire diverse candidates has increased 100 fold over the past decade.

iateanapple··on Redis Core Team Update
> It stands to reason that there are going to be women (in particular) with the innate abilities you want

Since when was hiring about innate abilities?

> if you hire based on what people already did, not what you assess they can do in the future

That’s literally how the majority of tech companies both hire and promote.

Good luck getting a promotion at Google (for example) based on potential.

iateanapple··on Redis Core Team Update
> I have found they are literally 2x-10x better than their peers.

So either your organisation is horribly sexist by not promoting these women or you are horribly sexist and think they are better because they are women.

iateanapple··on One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud
> It boggles the mind that people can live with themselves and can carry on living with such guilt. Then again, maybe it’s my western sense of morality that tells me the perpetrator should feel guilt. Perhaps they don’t...

The average westerner walks around in clothing made by incredibly desperate people living in poverty who work long hours in horrible conditions.

iateanapple··on In defense of hiring based on side projects
> No, the equivalent for a software engineer is actually coding, whether on the job or not.

Practice and performance are not the same thing. The mindset is entirely different.

Imagine a world where devs are told by their managers to stop working on a task when it’s clear that the task is not improving their skills.

It doesn’t happen because as a software dev every day is game day.

Instead they will get asked to solve the same kind of problem umpteenth times.

I’ve had to leave top tech companies just to get an opportunity to improve.

iateanapple··on In defense of hiring based on side projects
> Boxing for example

Boxing isn’t a good example because it’s a combat sport which means there is far more training than competing.

When I played football the ratio was close to 1:1 - games played to hours trained and something like 150-200:1 for when I was boxing.

iateanapple··on In defense of hiring based on side projects
> I don't know why you point out athletes so much, when top-level athletes actually practice very few hours a day.

> trains a total of 4-5 hours daily, at most

You are making the parents point for them.

The average software developer would get closer to 2-3 hours a week of their work time dedicated to improving their skills.

Practice:Performance is highly skewed towards performance for work.

iateanapple··on Zuckerberg: advertisers will be back to Facebook 'soon enough'
> Even with its core loyal employees Facebook can’t compete if they don’t retain skilled workers.

There is an abundance of skilled workers who don’t care about this boycott. I personally know quite a few skilled devs who think Zuckerberg taking a stand is a reason to work for Facebook.

iateanapple··on Zuckerberg: advertisers will be back to Facebook 'soon enough'
> There is (hopefully) enough space between "actively organizing genocide" and "conservatives, conspiracy theory pages, or even jokes" to allow room for a reasonable line.

There is no trust to allow anything resembling a reasonable line.

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