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I'm failing to understand how that's any different from other blood tests: they signal a problem, then more has to be established to validate the signal. Nobody is saying "this test proves someone has cancer" and I'm pretty sure doctors already have to discuss how tests can be inaccurate with patients. I believe it's the case that symptoms of cancer (just like other illnesses) may be ignored exactly because there aren't any other signals to indicate cancer. Plus zebras and horses and all of that too. Perhaps someone does have symptoms but nobody connects the dots, and these tests might connect those dots. Is there some reason that this argument is invalid in medical science?
I don't think row-level security will be any better based on this documentation.
I don't know how much it's worth, but properly supporting tax takes a lot of effort to do correctly in real-time.
And yet the situation could happen again today without anyone being the wiser for months.
https://twitter.com/GrumpyOldAstro/status/139637061036883149...
Essentially, they chose to multiply any light from all of the frames.
The argument I've seen is that this stuff can be adjusted for and that most researchers have already had to adjust for it (since there are ~1500 non-Starlink satellites already). Is that just an utter fallacy?
Let me put it one other way: if he didn’t organize people and then make that speech, do you think there would have been a riot at all?
Here are a few (not even all of them):
- "... these people are not going to take it any longer, they’re not going to take it any longer."
- "... to see our election victory stolen by bold and radical left Democrats. ... We will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved. ... We will not take it anymore, and that is what this is all about. .. We’re just not going to let that happen."
- "We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people. And we’re going to have to fight much harder."
- "... Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness."
- "Well, I would say yes, it does, because the Constitution says you have to protect our country, and you have to protect our Constitution, and you can’t vote on fraud, and fraud breaks up everything, doesn’t it? When you catch somebody in a fraud, you are allowed to go by very different rules."
- "Looking out at all of the amazing patriots here today, I have never been more confident in our nation’s future."
- "But I said something is wrong here, something is really wrong, can’t have happened, and we fight. We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore."
The crowd was literally chanting "fight for Trump" during the speech before they went and...surprise... fought for Trump.
Then after, he tweeted a video and some text:
- "... Stay peaceful!"
- "No violence!"
- "We had an election that was stolen from us. ... We have to have peace. ... I know how you feel."
- "These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!"
So yeah, he called for peace after rallying the crowd to fight for him. At the same time, he was saying that it was justified and that he feels the same way as the folks rioting.
He scheduled the speech nearby so that they would march on the Capitol building (it's literally in his speech). Others have spent time detailing this out[0]. Again, he picked many words and phrases that he used to convey to the crowd that this was a time for _action_. If he wasn't aware that crowd was going to react to his words with action, then that'd make him pretty dense.
I think I've exhaustively gotten the point across that using the term "fight" in a speech isn't the problem. If you want to whack it again, go for it.
0: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/ann...
He used a lot of euphemisms, and I think there is some evidence there that he knew the message he was sending to the crowd.
Patriot: a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.
Fight: take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows or the use of weapons.
Steal: take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
> However, it does not necessarily mean the president did not incite violence with the rest of his speech or in his rhetoric prior to January 6.
He mentioned being peaceful once, but then suggested that the nation was being stolen from them and that they should be patriots and fight back.
Tesla has been working on this problem for somewhere close to half the time and with far fewer resources initially. Tesla has a million cars on the road across the entire world and only use basic sensors and CV. Six fatalities have been attributed to Tesla (and the driver).
So there really isn't a lot of data to go on for who is "winning" but Tesla has much more driver data. The fatalities are so low compared to the miles driven that it's difficult to really know if Waymo could achieve a better result.
Here is the advice that replaces that 2007 CDC paper (from 2017):
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/rr/rr6601a1.htm
> NPIs can be phased in, or layered, on the basis of pandemic severity and local transmission patterns over time.
It goes on to explain that it may suggest "lockdowns" if the pandemic is severe enough.
Here are the two actual papers that other link is based on (the 2nd of these is more applicable):
- https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/12/1/05-1370_article
- https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/12/1/05-1371_article (see phase 6)
Some quotes:
> A 1959 WHO consultation concluded, "In the Northern hemisphere at least, the opening of schools after the summer holidays seems to have played an important role in initiating the main epidemic phase" (13). Despite the propensity of influenza epidemics to be amplified in primary schools (14), data on the effectiveness of school closures are limited. Apparently no data or analyses exist for recommending illness thresholds or rates of change that should lead to considering closing or reopening schools.
> Apparently no controlled studies assess the efficacy of mask use in preventing transmission of influenza viruses.
> As noted above, influenza virus isolation rates decreased, but since multiple measures were implemented, the contribution of mask use, if any, is uncertain (20). In case-control studies conducted in Beijing and Hong Kong, wearing masks in public was independently associated with protection from SARS in a multivariate analysis.
These papers are from 2006. They are also very clear that the circumstances matter. Regarding international travel, it seems they suggest that restricting travel would be difficult, if not impossible. They suggest closing schools if a link is unknown or found between schools and transmission.
The number hospitalized so for COVID-19 in the US exceeds the 2017-2018 season. Additionally, the mortality rate is an order of magnitude higher (61k in 2017-2018 flus vs ~500k+ for COVID-19 so far, US). Dealing with dying patients is harder on hospital staff. Treating a new illness was challenging for hospitals. That result is with the extraordinary measures that we, as a society, have taken.
>Neither is true.
I’ll admit, it’s tough to say what the lockdowns did to/for us. I’m not prepared to assert the truth as willingly as you are. I’m going to have to defer to the only study I could find on this: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2404-8
The kerpen tweet thread is troubling because it suggests that the CDC is both providing accurate data and that they are only providing guidance for political reasons. So they aren’t lying, but they are? Then he compares COVID-19 to the flu and cold, ignoring that transmission by children can affect adults.
Here is another one (in addition to the one above about children):
> No lockdown in 2017-2018 cold season!
https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1335873383209177088?s...
That is ignoring that the fatality rate and transmission rate is significantly higher in COVID-19.
Maybe all of these things comparing the equivalence of the cold and COVID-19 mean nothing to you, but they seem significant to me. Perhaps you’ll defend these by saying, “in isolation this data is accurate.” That point falls flat when taken in context to our situation — they are marketing a perspective.
You asked me for some citations for my comments and then criticized that I provided citations for why I said what I said. Nobody said you’re on “Team Reality” but you.
(Oh, and also: I can’t go back further than 10/10 on your tweets but there were a number of retweets from EthicalSkeptic saying that the death count was a lie and suggesting that COVID-19 wasn’t a big deal.)
Edit: Here is a comment from someone in the thread discussed. This is the “subtext” I see. https://twitter.com/MarkChangizi/status/1282074580350312450?...
I think 11 and 12 point to masks being a good idea. The graphs you linked ignore population density and seasonal increases in transmission of viruses. An increase after a mask mandate isn’t proof that the mandate had no impact.
0. https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1360069067017748480?s=21 — “Reminder: with flu and RSV down ~98% and replaced by COVID, which is far less dangerous to children, we are in literally the mildest respiratory illness season for children in recorded history.”
1. https://twitter.com/brendaneich/status/1336918916895965185?s...
2. https://twitter.com/brendaneich/status/1336920895344975873?s...
3. https://twitter.com/brendaneich/status/1335840898807070720?s...
4. https://twitter.com/brendaneich/status/1335346330500141056?s...
5. https://twitter.com/davidbcollum/status/1329789976683409408?...
6. https://twitter.com/ianmsc/status/1333851832205012992?s=21
7. https://twitter.com/hold2llc/status/1328879434456330242?s=21
8. https://twitter.com/ewoodhouse7/status/1323115034239737856?s...
9. https://twitter.com/ianmsc/status/1320811573682728960?s=21
10. I can’t go back far enough, but there were a series of graphs from EthicalSkeptic which seemed less than ethical.
11. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1279750/retrieve
12. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-si...
Also, flatly saying that mask mandates don’t work is wrong. The evidence is (and has been) that they are effective if used properly. (Don’t touch them, wash hands, and single use or clean them.) Unfortunately, lots of people don’t use them properly and that lessens their effectiveness. You have retweeted things implying that masks don’t work.