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irf1··on We compiled a library of realistic engineering take-home tests and ranked them
Give candidates real work & pay them for their time. https://blog.algora.io/post/2022-04-pay-when-hiring-part-2/
irf1··on Show HN: Uber for Coding — Build product with bounties
+1 Thank you Kevin! We really appreciate it :)
irf1··on Show HN: Uber for Coding — Build product with bounties
Naval Ravikant discusses this with Joe Rogan (episode #1309) at min 25:20-28:20 youtu.be/3qHkcs3kG44?t=1520

What do you think?

irf1··on Show HN: Uber for Coding — Build product with bounties
Thank you both for your feedback!! You are right. This is in our backlog, we appreciate you emphasizing it!
irf1··on Show HN: Uber for Coding — Build product with bounties
This $100 bounty was shared by an undergraduate student founder at Harvard College who is looking for contributors / new teammates. There are likely classmates/peers/developers who may find it fun and worthwhile to solve this bounty and collaborate with Caine. Certainly, university students have thus far found Algora to be neat. You are not wrong, the amount is very low, but it's ok amongst students looking to hack things up.

Personally, with my co-founder Zaf we cannot presently afford a full-time engineer, but with bounties we are getting a lot of work done while sticking to our tight budget. It's a modular tool, you can do what you wish with it and award as much as you wish. So far, we have personally awarded $7,876.68 in bounties to our own contributors, and our bounty payouts will be higher as our budget permits.

Your analysis is not incorrect. Of course, people who contribute to open source (mostly without pay) may beg to differ, sometimes it's just fun to build stuff and help out.

We certainly also hope to see more, higher-paying bounties :)

- Ioannis

irf1··on Show HN: Uber for Coding — Build product with bounties
Re: the latter question, absolutely! You can create bounties both in your private Algora repos as well as private Github repos using our integration. You can share them privately (via email) or make them public on Algora - only the issue becomes visible and not your codebase. No-one can access your repo directory (codebase) unless you add them as a collaborator in the repo. People who discover your bounties can request to solve them, and you accept them by sharing the repos. You can also ask solvers to sign documents before accessing your repos.

As for the work classification, it is actually 1099 contract work! Every year, Algora Public Benefit Corporation makes an information disclosure to the IRS about users’ earnings from the previous year, summing up the money they have received. Users who made money on Algora also receive these 1099 forms, which sum their bounty payouts and come in handy when filing for taxes.

- Ioannis

irf1··on Show HN: Uber for Coding — Build product with bounties
Thank you for your comment! All these folks on the homepage actually completed bounties while being college students (most of them at Williams College in Massachusetts, our alma mater) before landing their entry-level jobs. They were the first peps that tried out Algora while we were building it out. - Ioannis
irf1··on Show HN: Uber for Coding — Build product with bounties
Absolutely, in fact they already have! We support bounty payouts from (and to) anywhere that Stripe does. - Ioannis
irf1··on Ask HN: Replace Job Applications with Pull Requests?
Thanks for your comment and reply! Very valid points.

> what if someone else submits a solution for the ticket I'm in the middle of?

You're right, the bounty should display the number of people working on it and when they started. That should be a feature - thanks!

> What if my solution is valid, but not accepted?

Very valid point again. I'd say it depends on the specification. When we did it https://algora.io/algora/challenge/bounties/1 we specified that we will reward the best submissions and not all of them. And we did only reward 3/5 PRs. Another early user chose to award all submissions. As long as it's specified and clear, people can decide accordingly.

> Production work on an unfamiliar project warrants some discussion

The past few months a recent graduate has been contributing to Algora before starting her job at Snap this summer, and we never actually spoke! Of course, there's plenty of discussion in issue & PR comment threads. The same goes for most open source software contributors around the world. But I see where you're coming from! It might come down to sufficient documentation.

irf1··on Ask HN: Replace Job Applications with Pull Requests?
Correct. Coding would be paid, for example using bounties (https://docs.algora.io/doc/Bounties/).
irf1··on SWE interviews should be paid
Algora takes care of 1099s (via Stripe) so you don't have to
irf1··on SWE interviews should be paid
Stripe Connect collects SSN/EIN for someone to get paid on Algora. It's basically no-strings-attached contract work within Git repositories.
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