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jibe··on US cities pay too much for buses
A literal bus factory may not be critical for national security, but the ability to manufacture a vehicle is. So the know-how, the supply lines, and the manufacturing facility are important. The ability to manufacture a fuel injector, a transmission, a windshield is going going to apply to a bus, a plane, a tank..
jibe··on Meta Ray-Ban Display
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42499986
jibe··on An annual blast of Pacific cold water did not occur
But then sometimes it’s not?
jibe··on US to target more businesses after Hyundai raid
"US to target more businesses" - they are!
jibe··on Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features
GM has 6 month attention span, abandoning self driving is suicidal short term thinking.

Waymo has been slow and steady, and has built something pretty great.

jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
FBI found it was entirely possible to disable the striker block without the trigger being pulled. A combination of wear, inadequate design, and loose manufacturing tolerances.

To disable the striker block, they removed the rear plate, applied pressure to lift the slide up and away from the grip, then stuck a punch into the back of the gun to manually release the sear. Maybe this is the beginning of discovering an issue with the striker block, but this isn't simulating a failure that could happen under normal circumstances (specifically jamming a punch in the back and releasing the sear).

jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
I mean demonstrate it on a gun that has had an uncommanded discharge. Make it happen again, and then identify the problem on that specific gun.

As you point out, the drop issue was well documented, and then fixed. So far, no one has identified a cause for the possible uncommanded discharge.

jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
It goes off as the holster he bends over and bumps into the officer next to him. The holster is clearly being moved and touched.

Regardless, if there is a defect in that particular gun, they should just demonstrate it. If it isn't the holster, or something in the holster pulling the trigger, make it happen outside the holster.

jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
The P320 does have a firing pin block. There is a lever that physically blocks the striker from moving. When you pull the trigger, the trigger bar lifts the lever, allowing the striker to move if the sear is also disengaged.

None of this is a sear block, or has anything to do directly with the sear. It will prevent the gun from firing if the sear were to fail.

You can see the lever in green in this animation:

https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/origina...

jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
These are all good theories. Someone should demonstrate it if true. When there were drop safe questions, it was able to be reproduced, and there was a change to address it. Show an uncommanded discharge, show why it happened. Then you have a design or manufacturing flaw.
jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
I 100% agree it is concerning, but in this video you can't see whether the trigger is pulled or not. Holstering the gun creates a risk of the trigger being pulled. The gun goes off while it is being pushed in, which suggests the trigger is catching on something.

If the gun was able to fire by itself, without the trigger being actuated, then someone should make it happen on video. Shake the crap out of it, bang on it. Take it in and out of a clear plastic holster 1000 times until the supposed defect happens.

jibe··on We regret but have to temporary suspend the shipments to USA
Yes, I was commenting on the parent poster's suggestion that only raw copper might be tariffed. If only raw copper was tariffed, you could bypass it by importing very lightly process copper, like thick wire.
jibe··on We regret but have to temporary suspend the shipments to USA
Yes, that was my point. If you only tariff raw copper (which is what the parent thought), you could avoid the tariff by importing lightly process copper (e.g. a spool of 0000 wire instead of bar of copper).
jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
I understand what it looks like, but we have the guns from those incidents, and no one has looked at them an pointed to a defect, or reproduced them firing without the trigger being actuated.

A gun in a holster can fire when it is moved and the holster is poorly fit, incorrectly configured, or there anything caught in it like tail of a shirt, drawstring. Also, many police have a flashlight on their pistol, which opens up space quite a bit making it easier for things to get caught inside.

jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
There is a giant screw jammed in the trigger. That disengages the internal safeties. That's not showing the gun is not safe, that is intentionally making it unsafe. That provides no insight as to whether the gun can fire uncommanded, without moving the trigger, which is the claim.
jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
There is no evidence of this, no reproduction of it firing without the trigger being pulled, and not even a good theory on it. The YouTube videos are involve pulling the trigger far enough to disengage the internal safeties.
jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
1: It isn't a hair trigger, it is still a 6 to 6.5 pound pull.

2: The trigger is what it is, the military and police departments chose it for what was.

I agree, the police in particular, should use a gun that takes more effort to fire. But don't blame Sig for this, it isn't a design flaw.

jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
There is nothing in there except a sensational headline. The military asked Sig to come up with every possible theoretical failure mode for the gun, and assess the risk. There is nothing about a specific flaw that would cause the gun to fire uncommanded. The document is being misrepresented here.
jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
The M17/M18/P320 has a striker block, and you have to pull the trigger to disengage it.
jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
You are begging the question, in the classic meaning of the phrase. What issue specifically? I haven't seen a claim yet that ultimately didn't boil down to: "and the trigger was pulled".

Maybe the issue is that the 320 is too close to a competition trigger, and it isn't appropriate for a duty gun. But the gun has been under a microscope for years now, and no one has shown a design defect that causes the gun to fire by itself.

jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
Thanks for the correction, Sig did call it a voluntary upgrade, not a recall. The do have other actual recalls, like on the Sig Cross rifle, so they are willing to do it when there is an issue that calls for it.

https://www.sigsauer.com/blog/safety-recall-notice-sig-sauer...

They would have been in a better spot today to defend the P320 if they had made it a mandatory recall, so they probably should have done it.

jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
They already did a recall for a much less serious issue, the drop safe recall, so they have proven that they are willing to recall if there is something to fix.
jibe··on Sig Sauer citing national security to keep documents from public
That assumes there is an issue to fix. No one has identified an issue that would cause the gun to fire without actuating the trigger.

There was a recent huge thread on HN around the Air Force incident, we now know the guy was playing with the gun, shot and killed someone, then lied about it going off sitting on the table.

If there was some defect that Sig could fix via recall, they would be stupid not to recall. Maybe there is just nothing to fix, and they aren’t stupid.

jibe··on We regret but have to temporary suspend the shipments to USA
How would you handle importing raw copper, vs a spool of 0000 gauge copper wire?
jibe··on German contest to live in depopulated Soviet-era city proves global hit
Sanders has shifted from his old view quite a bit, and is pro immigration specifically for filling low wage jobs, and holding wages down.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/07/bernie-sanders-2020...

jibe··on Porn censorship is going to destroy the internet
We have had age restrictions on physical pornography (magazines, dvd/vhs) and XXX movie theaters for a century, and it didn't threaten the book publishing industry or Hollywood.
jibe··on Court records reveal Sig Sauer knew of pistol risks for years
The gun firing when the trigger is being pulled is not a design flaw, and it is 100% mitigated with the safety that the military has in their guns.
jibe··on Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down
This is a case where left and right can work together for totally different reasons. The left is fighting for rape porn in video games, and the right doesn’t want gun stores definanced. Both win with credit platform neutrality.
jibe··on Sign in with Google in Chrome
The bad thing is not sharing the info with Google (you are right, just by siing it, Google has your info), but the random third party website.
jibe··on Air Force unit suspends use of Sig Sauer pistol after shooting death of airman
The lack of an external safety is not a defect. Many guns, probably a majority of new sales don’t. Anyone buying P320 knows there is no external safety. Sig should be liable for defects, and potentially negligent design, but seems reasonable not to be able to sue them for not including an external safety.
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