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jonathankoren

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Downvotes aren’t a counter argument. All it means is you made someone feel bad for some reason.

Social vote counters are just sentiment thermometers.

-- Me (-4, flagged)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21539167

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jonathankoren··on Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims
HN? Don’t you mean YC?
jonathankoren··on Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims
My thought about the demise of OAI’s AGI safety team is that they outlived their usefulness.

It was a marketing campaign. “We’re super cool. We’re super advanced. We hope don’t make the terminator! wink wink” “Oh no! GPT-2 is too dangerous! We better not release it! Oh wait. We did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ “)

It was never a serious thing. Sure here and in the depths of weirdo forums people whispered about the AGI that can’t be named — Roko’s Basilisk. It was just comically stupid. Pascal’s Wager with extra steps.

Now OpenAI has tons of money and everyone wants to deal with them, so they don’t need that hype machine. Instead they’re saying stick their “dangerous” models in your toaster Maximum Overdrive style.

It was transparent

jonathankoren··on Expedia Group fired their CTO, Rathi Murthy
So wild that this article got flagged. Wonder why people want to memory hole this. Even Bloomberg is reporting this.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/expedia-cto-senior-engineerin...

jonathankoren··on Expedia Group fired their CTO, Rathi Murthy
No. They are conscious. You see this whenever someone becomes unaccountable and surrounded by yes men. Did they have these views before? Probably. Could they express and act on them before? No. That’s the difference.

There’s a reason why fair and respectable people in power are called out as a rarity.

jonathankoren··on Expedia Group fired their CTO, Rathi Murthy
Never say “class warfare”
jonathankoren··on Bossware is a big legal risk
It’s the decline of unions
jonathankoren··on Exercises to Learn Rust
To follow up that movie reference with the response in a different movie where that line is misquoted, “Where’d you hear that, a renaissance festival?”

I haven’t seen that movie a lot, but that scene (and really the entire movie) has been seared into my consciousness for 30 years. It was just the exact thing I wanted at that point in my life.

jonathankoren··on A forged Apple employee badge
Yeah, it’s an “issue date” someone just didn’t go across the room and get it. Also, the early employee numbers are famously semibogus. Jobs was 0 because he hated coming after Woz, who was 1.
jonathankoren··on The Downfall of DeviantArt
Isn't the real problem here not Deviant Art, as much as people making low effort bot nets to trick Deviant Art into paying them?

It's a spam problem, only worse, because they're actively paying the spammers.

Even Spotify has this problem. All too often I'm getting recommended crappy remixes "slowed and reverbed" or "sped up". Just recently I got some guy's crappy techno with the artist field spammed with completely unrelated bands I follow. Of course, when I tried to report this, Spotify only cared if the guy was selling bootleg merchandise.

The whole thing made me click, "hide artist" and "hide song" for the very first time.

jonathankoren··on Intel's Thunderbolt Share lets two PCs control each other over a USB cable
It was weird and cool when using firewire, I connected two powerbooks together, using one as a simple external disk.

TBF though, you could always just set up a mesh network. Wait. Does mesh network functionality still exist?

jonathankoren··on Show HN: I made a Mac app to search my images and videos locally with ML
Oh my god! A locally run one time purchase application!

I'm so glad someone remembers how software is supposed to work.

Thanks.

jonathankoren··on Bossware is a big legal risk
You want to know how the Overton window shifted from workers as humans, to workers as property? Look at laws around the telephone.

If you have a telephone on your desk, it is illegal for your employer to secretly listen into those calls. However, if you send an email, you employer has every right to secretly read them.

The only difference is, emails don’t exist in the 30s, but telephones did.

jonathankoren··on Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years
We have the solution for decades. The rolling class just doesn’t want to use them because it would cost them money
jonathankoren··on Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years
Number 3 is literally an article of faith. And like all matters of faith, not only is there no evidence for it, the evidence that we do have runs counter to the belief.

Let’s be honest here. Climate change was a completely predicable problem with known causes causes and solutions. It was detected early and alarms were raised in a timely manner. Literally nothing happened. In fact, even today, nothing happens. Why? Money. Because the billionaires would rather have us all die than not buy a tenth superyacht. (NB: Go Team Orca!)

The problem was not, and is not, science. It’s money and who has it. Now those same folks and their apologists promote quite laughable ideas like carbon capture and geoengineering. Could we have gotten cheaper lithium batteries earlier with more investment? Probably, but what did we get instead? Fracking. Literally the opposite of what was needed.

Science is not magic. Even if it was, the nature of the problem means it gets exponentially more difficult every day that passes. You mange to repeal the second law of thermodynamics and somehow got the carbon pollution industry to spend enough money to make it viable? Great! Oh, oops! The permafrost melted and now 10x more powerful methane has been released, so… yeah. Too late!

It’s just Pollyanna talk that actively harmful as it not only directs resources from mitigation and migration to wasteful handouts while simultaneously giving cover for just staying the course.

But hey. Maybe I’m just a doomer, and those Titanic passengers should have just sciences up more lifeboats instead of drown. Maybe all of this just… “needs more study”.

jonathankoren··on Romance author gets locked out of Google Docs for "inappropriate" content
It doesn't suck as hard as lack of imagination and using better tools.
jonathankoren··on Romance author gets locked out of Google Docs for "inappropriate" content
But the kids these days think someone else's computer is their computer, and just whine and roll over instead of punking out and DIYing it.
jonathankoren··on Romance author gets locked out of Google Docs for "inappropriate" content
I don’t understand why you think Google’s freedom of speech and association should be restricted. It’s not like you can’t just go someplace else, like you’re own computer.
jonathankoren··on Romance author gets locked out of Google Docs for "inappropriate" content
Once again, never use someone else’s computer. Again, this means you SHOULD NOT BE USING CLOUD APPLICATIONS.

Full stop.

They’re convenient sure, but they’re also restrictive and all too often just a protection racket via subscriptions.

Sorry, but that’s just how it is.

jonathankoren··on Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
Nah. It’s same platitudes that’s always said when a someone high profile is fired.
jonathankoren··on Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
More like hustle culture’s “spend more time with the family”
jonathankoren··on Meta Is Shuttering Workplace, Its Enterprise Version of Facebook
Yes, that’s exactly how you do it. That’s the exact process I everyone uses to find someone on facebook. Since you supposedly are in regular contact with these people, you can even ask them, “Is this you?” if for some reason you can’t identify their profile.

This is literally how everyone finds anyone on Facebook and every other social network.

jonathankoren··on Meta Is Shuttering Workplace, Its Enterprise Version of Facebook
Nothing stops you
jonathankoren··on Meta Is Shuttering Workplace, Its Enterprise Version of Facebook
Not linking it to public FB was a decision because most people don't want their work and personal lives mixed.
jonathankoren··on Sun Microsystems logo: the most beautiful logo design (objectively)
I wonder if rotating each quadrant by 90 degrees was an effort to avoid trademark confusion.

Also, I would have liked some Sun swag from Columbia.

jonathankoren··on Companies Say They're Using Microphone Audio to Target Ads [audio] (2023)
Because I have never interacted with any of that type of content or creators on the platform, and then when I suddenly get 10 different creators recommended to me simultaneously from 10 different topics. That’s weird.

I also explicitly said it would be “weird” for them share information, so you concluding that that I think collusion is the result is unwarranted. Perhaps you should work on your reading skills instead of injecting your assumptions.

jonathankoren··on Companies Say They're Using Microphone Audio to Target Ads [audio] (2023)
I would prefer a more plausible guess
jonathankoren··on Companies Say They're Using Microphone Audio to Target Ads [audio] (2023)
I also think there’s something weird going on with YouTube recommendations. The thing that I’ve noticed is that people I follow on TikTok are showing up in my YouTube recommendations, and I’ve never interacted with their YouTube accounts. Most times I didn’t even know they had a YouTube account.

I use the same email address on both accounts, but it seems weird that TT would export its follow graph to YT for any reason.

jonathankoren··on Astronomers Are on the Hunt for Dyson Spheres
Have you ever seen the math for simulation theory? It’s stupid. It pretty much starts with, what has enough entropy to hold the simulation, and then figuring out what could have that many bits of entropy. Which gives you a result like, Sagittarius A*. Which means that the simulation is magically programmed by the material falling to the event horizon of a supermassive blackhole, and the data is red out of the “computer” through hawking radiation at a rate measured in bits per millennia.

https://youtu.be/0GLgZvTCbaA

jonathankoren··on Scott Galloway: How the US is destroying young people's future [video]
You know, your proposals are also engineering society. It’s just a society of the 1800s and before. It sucked. It sucked for the vast majority of people. Life may still suck, but it sucked a lot worse then.

To be completely clear here. When you say, “ accept this will lead to wealth inequality but maybe a benevolent billionaire class will be more likely to 'fix' society more than our 'elected' representatives can.” You’re advocating for authoritarian oligarchy.

Fuck. That. Shit. Fuck that in whatever they find the least desirable.

Edit: Jesus. I really the above comment. It’s not even internally consistent logic. It’s just dumb.

jonathankoren··on Astronomers Are on the Hunt for Dyson Spheres
Even your idea of living on red dwarf suffers from the same problem that Dyson spheres and really the whole kardishev scale suffers from: They’re bad 1950s sci-fi. Just because you can do the math, doesn’t mean they exist.

Not only do you have to have the technology to do any of these these things (which is not a given), but somehow you have to have a civilization dedicated to doing it over the course of thousands of years.

No. Just no. It’s just fantasy.

Case in point: We know there are no type 3 civilizations anywhere in the observable universe. V

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