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How often do you need to change the oil on a cat? Every 10K Meow-les?

And to be on topic, you'd need a trusted 3rd party to manage those. But lately we've seen you can't trust them to secure / not resell your data anyway.

In my specific case, it wasn't dev profiles but people on a spectrum going from I grok tech stuff to only browsing and the office suite.

So obviously, whenever I started doing trainings on how to use the cli / the toolkit, I could see what is best described as mild panic. Which I get, CLI isn't inviting at all, it's pretty daunting, there's no real emphasis on safety (as in not breaking anything), it's far from being easy to reason with when you're used to the Windows / GUI world.

The lesson was not so much about the prompt and more about understanding your target audience and catering to them really.

I think it's mostly a matter of chance more than anything else.

If you've jumped straight into programming, you'll probably consider any of those problems as a nail to your C/JS/Java/Python Hammer.

I was lucky to be initiated to the GNU / UNIX toolset by operation folks when doing tech support in a SAAS biz. We were dealing with a lot of text files and it didn't feel right to offload whatever my problem was to them, so I started learning from them and the scripts they wrote.

Mostly trivial stuff, such as in a directory, only select the relevant files, iterate through them to sum up something or find exactly the bit of information you need.

This allowed me to decrease time spent looking for the answer to my current case or colleague's case.

Of course, I then built those functionalities into a .bashrc (or was it bash_profile?) script to help my fellow support folks finding the answer on their own..

Turns out, most people don't want to have anything to do with a command prompt, even if the hard part has been done for you. That's been a pretty good lesson BTW.

Fast forward a few years later to now and I'm realising a good amount of stuff I've been writing lately could potentially be GNU'd instead of writing a Python script.

So that's how it goes I guess.

Have a friend that was at Facebook for a conference where Miss Sandberg was speaking and she told the tone used felt quite infantilising.

Ztockholm's syndrome? Drinking the Book-Aid?

Pardon the terrible puns but it seems like strange coming from a company full of well educated & reasonably smart people.

At least folks in Google and Microsoft seem to have a bit more backbone.

I can pull off some ok stuff with the shell toolkit, including awk and sed but that's a whole different level.

Whoever authored that, mad props.

Indeed, a good reminder for the tech crowd that there's value in usability / accessibility for the general public.

My ex-flatmate left our flat to live above one. He didn't stay long in that new place. So yeah, good luck with blocking out low frequencies.

NIMBYers mostly.

There's an awful lot of urban sprawl because of those archaic rules and you add to that a pretty terrible public transport by Western Europe standards. Dublin is pretty terrible place to live in if you're not wealthy.

Any attempt to improve both situations are thwarted by aforementioned NIMBY folks which are only looking out for themselves, among them the people in power.[0]

[0] https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/editorial/the-irish-times...

Might as well buy a Thermomix or equivalent

What's wrong with doing nothing, laying on the couch snuggling your pets / SO / family, or enjoying your friend's company around a meal / drinks?

Some kind of (anonymised) user rating of how each value is applied in the company would make a lot of sense.

This would allow to assess the truthfulness of such claims

I just did it, found the possible answers to lack nuance for some questions, which I guess makes it easier to assess.

Hey, I got quite a high score, pretty happy with myself I guess. Oh wait ...

And lest we forget, it is where Jesus made its most infamous miracle, waltzing over the Hudson.

Ahahah, it's amazing.

Agreeing with other comment, having a quota to use would seem like a better thing. You could spread it over time or over multiple people. Chances are that after the first few noodz the target is going to block the number.

Even better yet : offer a fake/proxy number for people to get rid of the ones that do not take no for an answer and reply with only noodz ;)

Question to the HN crowd : Would having event data & PII-ish data decoupled be an acceptable compromise to privacy granted that you can wipe the PII stuff and the only data left is completely anonymous (just a UUID that leads to nothing in case of deletion)?

Is anonymity in the eye of the beholder?

Cool idea, seems like the next logical (or rather the first) step in the current analytics pipeline.

This being said, your doc could do with some fixing / editing :

> https://www.avo.app/docs/help/faq Bad copy pasting of "Does Avo send my events to its servers?" instead of "Why does Avo want me to input my analytics tool API keys?"

> https://www.avo.app/docs/reference/languages Those are documented in detail in TBD.

Best of luck.

What's in it for the people doing the rating?

Follow up question : Given the target audience (dudes mostly), why should they help you rather than purposely misguide you into choosing the worst ones in order to undercut competition? A bit twisted I know but hey, if I thought of it, I'm probably not the only one ;)

Will do, cheers.

Been following you guys for a while, cool to see you're expanding -esp here in good auld Dublin and having enough momentum to afford such a move.

The value for pure tech players might be low -as in, you could hack something that does 90%+ of what segment does for you.

But for every other biz that happens to be on the internet, ie e-commerce, not having to rely on a tech team for implementing various services has some value. If you consider that some websites can only be updated every few months or so, having a third party manage that for you is a life-saver.

I've seen / helped too many marketing folks try to get some services (read pixels) implemented and it's always been a Shih-tzuh :)

Ah damn, signed up for segment one week ago or so. Some you win, some you lose I guess.

Echoing other commenters, pricing plans are quite steep for the more modest businesses out there who might have a pretty large reach (Monthly users) but nowhere near the budget to shell out big $$.

Tis a shame cause as someone with a foot in tech and the other one in marketing, I know there's a lof value for the real world businesses out there (outside of the tech bubble) but having to spend what I guess is a hefty amount of cash every month just for the pipes is going to be a hard sell for folks which might be already struggling to see value in investing in technology.

Yeah but if you dig deeper [0], original latin word : "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods; conscientiousness, sense of right, moral obligation; fear of the gods; divine service, religious observance; a religion, a faith, a mode of worship, cult; sanctity, holiness"

https://www.etymonline.com/word/religion

We've been killing gods since the dawn of times.

The word religion itself originally was all about worshiping a god.

Now everyone can define "God" how they want and follow whatever the scriptures advise, but let's not fool ourselves here, it's always been about power / control.

Hey, cool albeit pretty simple idea. If I may, given the kind of target you might have in mind, adding a referral program might make sense to organically grow your user base for a relatively low cost.

I'd rather have those kinds of platforms use some sort of unique hash of your ID than trust those muppets (remember Tinder's GPS coordinates leaking?) with anything too serious.

Looks like being / going "mobile" is the new thing @ Blizzard.

Dude, just drop it. Rename it to Internet vigilante or whatnot but clearly this is the wrong combination of words + context.

That's my exact issue with Brave - though I do like what they're aiming for despite being in the ad-tech business.

I don't think it's the browser's role to police such things, it should be a dumb agent only requesting content, displaying it and not leaking any sensitive stuff.

I believe the way forward is to have another 3rd party where you can manage those things. Want to create one persona per category of website you visit?

Even go as far as one per website? Doesn't matter, your metadata, you own it and more importantly your browser stays out of that business.

Ideally yeah, that would be the best but the supply and demand might not always match up. Maybe no advertiser is willing to spend some money on the content you're being served because it's very irrelevant to them or because there's simply no advertiser with enough budget to pick up the slack.

So you end up with highly valuable spots and then the rest which is at best barely enough to cover the costs of the publisher.

I'm not trying to blindly advocate for user targeted ads as the be all end all of online ads but the reality is that a huge swath of the publishers would probably disappear, consolidating the web even more.

Well, the main thing I can think off would be people constantly rejecting ads up until you only get the untargeted ads which means :

1) Less valuable and therefore bad for publishers. 2) Remove users from the pool available to those ad-tech providers and therefore is a big nono for them.

I could very well be wrong, so take it for what is worth.

This being said I'd like to highlight that there are 2 main concerns I have with completely killing the targeted ad industry, namely :

1) The big players will probably find workarounds and be able to sustain themselves, whereas the smaller players ( local news, niche website etc..) will probably get decimated or at the very least severely diminished.

2) A shift towards more sneaky advertising, something that isn't clearly identified as such. For all their issues, display advertising as it stands today tends to be pretty obvious. If you kill this segment, something else will fill the gap. It has already started and it might need to be heavily regulated (as the FTC did for those Instagram / Youtube folks promoting things).

I honestly believe that there's some room for improvements and it is in the best interest of the industry to get a grip and rein itself in. But the greed will prevail I'm afraid and therefore all those scandals might bring in (much needed tbh) regulations.

It makes a lot of sense and I'm sure advertisers would very much like it as much as you do (in this specific context that is).

I mean, there's a reason this infamous quote is still relevant today: “Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is, I don’t know which half.”

The real issue is the ad-ecosystem is afraid (and rightly so if I may) that people might try to game the system and would rather not bother.

That and realising that out of your X thousands / millions monthly unique visitors, only a small percentage are an adequate audience will pelase neither the publisher nor the ad exchanges. Sure you could fall back to branding adverts but those are usually of lesser value.