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You’re not directly saying Grusch is unwell, but you’re certainly insinuating it. And you’re dodging the other facts, like the ICIG deeming the claims as credible and [urgent (50 U.S.C. § 3033(k)(5)(G))](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/3033)

Would you mind emailing Gary (gnolan@drowlab.com) with your concerns? I’ve gotten a response from him on some concerns I had with an interview he did. He’s a very nice fellow and he tries to respond to every inquiry from w what I understand. If you send a respectful letter asking detailing your thoughts on the public discussion of Havana syndrome and ask him some general questions about the work he did with patients experiencing it, I am certain he will respond (albeit probably not in a timely manner).

I’d love for us to follow up if and when he does.

You can find discrepancies in anything if you want to enough.

I can’t convince you of anything because all of the data is classified or under HIPPA. All we can do is trust the highly credentialed people about their general findings. Gary Nolan is a world renowned pathologist that has started several NASDAQ companies. The CIA sought him out to investigate Havana syndrome because he created a new MRI machine (I think? Some kind of brain scanning device) that is world class.

I don’t follow Havana syndrome closely enough specifically because we are less likely to see that data than we are the upcoming revelations from congress of some non-human technology.

https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/garry-nolan

Are you going to assume the IC Inspector General is unwell too since they referred Grusch’s claims to congress as being both urgent and credible?

This situation may be a bit different. Trump was president and the clearance system begins and ends with his authority. He dictated Flynn and Kushner receipt Top Secret SCI clearances despite them not being able to pass the background checks.

Some of that is divulged in the original article https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-re...

Do you have a source on that? Did very highly credentialed and trusted intelligence officers come out and testify under oath that there were satanic sex cults?

There is a big difference here. Grusch has given specific locations and names of people that congress can subpoena. Marco Rubio has confirmed that other highly credentialed whistleblowers with first hand knowledge are confirming Grusch’s claims. I believe we will know soon enough whether this is real or not.

Professor Gary Nolan of Stanford doesn’t seem to think Havana syndrome is a “non event” considering he was contacted by the CIA to do brain scans of the victims.

I agree it’s frustrating because the entire situation is classified, but this is how the intelligence community works. We can’t show our hands by making reports to the public. I hope one day we can.

There is a discussion in congress about trying to change the classification system since the default is to over-classify everything, but we will see if that happens.

Because of this specific section

> The new UAP language (found in Section 1104 of the bill) would require "any person currently or formerly under contract with the Federal Government that has in their possession material or information provided by or derived from the Federal Government relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena that formerly or currently is protected by any form of special access or restricted access" to notify the director of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) within 60 days of enactment, and to provide within 180 days (six months) "a comprehensive list of all non-earth origin or exotic unidentified anomalous phenomena material" possessed and to make it available to the AARO director for "assessment, analysis, and inspection."

Why are you ignoring the fact that the senators have been convinced to add provisions regarding "non-earth origin" technology. That's a significant claim

Gillibrand's actions are speaking louder than what she's saying. https://douglasjohnson.ghost.io/senate-intelligence-bill-giv...

The Havana syndrome stuff is still highly classified. From what I’ve heard, there’s something going on there.

No, I just don’t like being compared to someone believing something blind. If Grusch was alleging that there are undisclosed programs reverse engineering other country technology, it would be taken seriously. But the subject brings stigma and that’s what needs to change. We shouldn’t be afraid to investigate these claims just because they seem incredibly outlandish.

Again, why would congress include these provisions in the next NDAA if they didn’t think Grusch’s comments held enough weight?

I would argue the situation here is different. Clapper used politically adept language to avoid saying what surveillance capabilities the NSA possessed. Here, David Grusch has given specific program names, locations, and people involved with these programs and is alleging these programs have not been properly disclosed to congress for over 80 years. His claims were found credible and urgent by the ICIG which is why he was referred to the congressional intelligence committees. All of that, combined with Rubio saying other whistleblowers have corroborated Grusch's claims make this all the more serious.

I understand, and I'm trying to explain how your options don't make sense in the context of the senators' recent actions.

I take offense to your edit. I'm not being a religious zealot saying God has to exist. If you understood anything about the US security clearance system, you would know that everyone has to undergo a rigorous psychological evaluation every 5 years to keep their Top Secret SCI clearance. You can not be unwell and be an intelligence officer at the level of Grusch. The likelihood of him being mentally unfit for that job and lying under oath to congress about these claims is extremely low. Also, If he is intentionally lying, he will go to jail.

All of that plus what the senators have recently done, we have a limited set of options for what could be the case.

They might be possibilities. But, the senate intelligence committee recently passed an amendment to the NDAA 2024 just 3 weeks after Grusch went public to include the following:

> The new UAP language (found in Section 1104 of the bill) would require "any person currently or formerly under contract with the Federal Government that has in their possession material or information provided by or derived from the Federal Government relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena that formerly or currently is protected by any form of special access or restricted access" to notify the director of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) within 60 days of enactment, and to provide within 180 days (six months) "a comprehensive list of all non-earth origin or exotic unidentified anomalous phenomena material" possessed and to make it available to the AARO director for "assessment, analysis, and inspection."

source: https://douglasjohnson.ghost.io/senate-intelligence-bill-giv...

Why would the senate intel committee do that if they didn't believe Grusch's claims?

Explain this to me: Why would the senate intelligence committee pass an amendment to the NDAA 2024 just 3 weeks after Grusch's allegations went public that include the following:

> "a comprehensive list of all non-earth origin or exotic unidentified anomalous phenomena material" possessed and to make it available to the AARO director for "assessment, analysis, and inspection."

source: https://douglasjohnson.ghost.io/senate-intelligence-bill-giv...

> they might be lying and it's not a big government psy-op

Why would he lie to congress under oath? He would go to jail.

> deluded or caught up in a hysteria about things that are neither psy-ops nor the things that they say they are.

Why would the senators make [this amendment](https://douglasjohnson.ghost.io/senate-intelligence-bill-giv...) to NDAA 2024 just 3 weeks after his allegations went public? The key portions being

> "a comprehensive list of all non-earth origin or exotic unidentified anomalous phenomena material" possessed and to make it available to the AARO director for "assessment, analysis, and inspection."

To try to catch hacker news up to the situation:

David Grusch, A former NGA intelligence officer has recently come forward with allegations that there are waived, unacknowledged Special Access Programs that are reverse engineering non-human technology, and that these programs have not had proper congressional oversight.

Why should we give him the time of day? Well, he was one of the highest intelligence officials in our nation. He was read in to over 2000 special access programs, and he gave Biden the presidential daily briefing for the NGA on a daily basis. He's given 11 hours of testimony under oath to the congressional intelligence committees; giving program names, locations, and people working on those "rogue" programs.

These allegations are incredibly serious. There are only two outcomes from here: either he is lying and this is some big government psy-op, or he is telling the truth. Either way, congress should investigate and get to the bottom of this.

Marco Rubio amplifying Grusch's allegations by confirming that other whistleblowers who have first hand knowledge of the programs have also testified to the fact.

Here is the article that broke the story: https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-re...

Here is the interview he did with Ross Coulthart: https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/we-are-not-alone-the...

Not a lot of its using firecracker https://firecracker-microvm.github.io/

This is a great mindset. I was forced to move from NYC to the bumfuck Midwest because of my girlfriend’s job, and I hate it here. Yes I own a house with a yard, but I’d trade it for my apartment in Manhattan any day of the week. Density makes life worth living

Our prevailing theory of quantum mechanics is QFT which suggests that there aren’t actually any individual particles, but fields that experience excitations which act like individual particles. If we find that gravity is also just a field and gravitons are excitations within the field, who’s to say that perhaps every excitation in that field is entangled in some sort, and to create a traversable wormhole to the other end of the galaxy, we only need to impact the gravitons around us?

The Alcubierre drive gets around this by bending the spacetime around a craft so that portion of space is moving and not the craft through space. And beyond that, traversable wormholes aren’t completely ruled out yet

You left one portion out of the explanation of the Casimir effect

> The Casimir effect shows that quantum field theory allows the energy density in certain regions of space to be negative relative to the ordinary vacuum energy, and it has been shown theoretically that quantum field theory allows states where the energy can be arbitrarily negative at a given point.[57] Many prominent physicists such as Stephen Hawking,[58] Kip Thorne,[59] and others[60][61][62] therefore argue that such effects might make it possible to stabilize a traversable wormhole.

There’s also solutions to FTL travel that don’t have to violate causality. Space itself is expanding faster than light.

My overall point is it’s weird for scientists to shut down the possibility of FTL travel when we have theories that don’t disprove it outright, especially when we don’t really know whether gravity is a bending in spacetime or is governed by the same rules as QFT. The ER=EPR conjecture really intrigues me, and I think following that path may help lead us to a better understanding of what’s possible.

https://phys.org/news/2017-04-physicists-violate-local-causa... is one

User-friendly is subjective. I think it would be more user friendly to tell users "hey, this code you're writing can't be verified by the compiler" rather than "hey, this code is unsafe. beware"

It's just an example. There's plenty of backend "engineers" who don't really engineer anything.

This all leads back to a conversation one of my professors talked about. In other engineering professions, you need to be licensed by the state. Software "Engineers" don't have this license, so anyone can go to bootcamp and become one. I think if we changed this, then we would be able to differentiate software engineers from simple developers and that would help engineers maintain their status above chatGPT for a while longer.

There's plenty of "engineers" whose job is to update some trivial frontend code or similar that will be automated away. I think software engineer salaries are about to tank really quick.

> Hossenfelder's thoughts about FTL travel in her video from yesterday

I didn't watch said video, but we have theories rooted in GR and Quantum Mechanics that would allow for FTL travel already using negative energy/pressure. We know there exists mechanisms to create negative pressure, like the Casimir effect. We know the universe is non-local, as per the Nobel prize awarded last year. And we are beginning to see experiments violate local causality. Who's to say we might not be able to engineer FTL travel at some point?