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They're only an invention if you consider "seeking sustenance to live" not explicitly a job if there's no monthly direct deposit involved.

I got this message and I'm on Chrome, on a laptop. I tested in the console on that site and was able to get the battery level though, so I'm pretty sure their check is just broken.

Yeah I'm aware of all of this, it's just the framing that confused me. A lot of these boil down to "nobody should own or use a smart phone to do anything" which is a bit of a different and less specific pitch than "nobody should browse the web on a smart phone".

Is it just a matter of not trusting the OS? I'm trying to figure out why "smart phone" is the discriminator here.

Even if that were true, that has nothing to do with browsing the web on it

Phone is small computer

"ChatGPT, generate a blog post that packages an ad for my service that competes with Google by harvesting HN's latent anti-Google rage."

I don't think so either, I'm saying he's a better person than I am for blocking it out as much as he did. If someone sends me a filthy email like that I don't particularly care if their name and contact info are made public or what happens afterwards.

That was also stupid

Rolled my eyes when this article got to the unlawful and climate parts. Rolled my eyes harder when I clicked to the homepage and saw what the main sell of this site is. I'd ask why this is so high on HN but it's so tailor-made for this audience I'm more disappointed than surprised.

> Somebody outside Google needs to provide a well-reasoned assessment of the feature proposal.

I'm sure that exists already, I've personally been waiting for some version of this to make it into browsers since like GPT 3.5. Every day on HN there is conversation about the tradeoffs of local vs. hosted models; the uses this API is intended for are perfectly within the capabilities of local models.

> And having skimmed that page, it really doesn't answer most of the important questions. Are other browsers expected to ship Google's model, or put a different model behind the API that Google has documented as being specifically for Gemini Nano?

Most of this is answered under the tag "Intent to Experiment" and the associated link. It's not a mandate that they're forcing on the web today, it's a public experiment intended in part to solicit feedback for a potential spec: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/6uBwi...

Can also be useful information to have if you want to give the appearance of having diligently redacted without doing too much to protect some asshole. IMO if the author of that email wanted to protect their anonymity and employability they should have used a throwaway, Don is doing them an undeserved service by even half-assedly blocking it out.

> By that reasoning, any novel/cutting-edge addition to a browser or other software is wrong?

This is IME the default position on HN. Seemingly a complete showcase of the appropriate scope of web technology can be found at http://info.cern.ch.

There is a link elsewhere in this comment tree addressing all of that:

https://developer.chrome.com/docs/ai/prompt-api

What do you think React is?

The opportunity to compete with an autocomplete engine that does their job better on average, instead of coasting on their credentials and hurting real people in the process.

Yeah that's "the government and people part", it's talking about the average. Of course the rich enclaves in Mexico are doing better than the average, you can find that in many places on the planet that are on average terrible places to live. But taking that into account makes it harder to crow about the ignorance of Americans, as it's so historically fun to do.

AI is only good at the work I'm not paid to do

Can't happen soon enough. If the bar was as high as it needed to be, there'd be like one qualified doctor on Earth so far.

Lol, sharing specifics famously a comfortable and smart thing to do with medical information, doctor. This kind of attitude is why the moment it's viable, every F-student with a doctorate is going to get what they deserve.

Respectfully, as someone with a family with plenty of medical issues and having experienced plenty of useless doctors, the onus is now on medical professionals to prove their worth. They are a second option and most of their remaining value is in the license to prescribe medication, after being told by laymen what medication is appropriate. They're using the same tools I am and they're worse at evaluating them.

Doctors thinking patients are arrogant is an age old problem.

Return to the halcyon security era of curl piped into bash

"Gay guy says what?" historically had a pretty good hit-rate, the limit is that most people probably can't recite their credit card number from memory fast enough to be got by this

We're gonna need a gayer boat

It's awesome that modern day hacking requires you to adopt the mindset of like, Bugs Bunny

Just commenting to say, from a place of empathy, that you're right and that it's hard for people to understand what mania looks like in someone if you haven't experienced it first-or-second-hand. You see it a few times and it becomes obvious. In the moment it can be disorienting and cause you to question your own reality because theirs seems so influential and motivated. I hope you're doing well these days.

> except for being like 10x more expensive, of course

Expense is largely fake when we're talking about transit. Amtrak specifically is directly federally subsidized; most bus lines run at a substantial loss. At scale there's no specific reason a fleet of cars has to be more expensive to the rider than either of these things.

> lol yes we should just replace Amtrak with 40 lane highways full of waymos. great idea

Didn't suggest replacing what's already there, there's just no justification to start building more in the US in big 2026. The time has really passed for that to be a good investment.

Buses are cars, buses can be self-driving, and they use the same infrastructure as other cars. Cars can also be made to be much smaller for the average trip, 1-2 passenger seats only, if you don't need a driver. They can go faster and stop less if you aren't subject to human reaction time. These changes are obviously future tech, but it seems nearer every day, and if we achieve genuine full self-driving at scale all assumptions and constraints about travel by car have to change.

> Obviously not what I'm talking about. It does not increase travel time in a significant way, and I'm including NYC subways. It's not like traffic jams for cars.

It's still relevant. Waiting for the next train, finding a seat, these are still jams. Travel time is also increased when you are required to be on the transit schedule instead of leaving at any time.

> Most humans generally desire social interactions with other humans. We are naturally social animals that live in groups.

This is a silly leap. Taxi and ride-share drivers are service workers. You don't shoot the shit with the cashier at McDonalds; he is doing his job and is literally forced to politely entertain you if you decide to trap him in conversation. When you are paying somebody to do a job it is not a social interaction anymore and has no bearing on whether one enjoys real social interaction. There are Uber drivers who falsely identify themselves to the app as deaf or hard-of-hearing specifically because they'd rather focus on driving than be a performing clown for chatty riders at the same time.

> Antisocial behavior is not 'good', it's just what you like. The pandemic was a major negative for society on a social level.

It's not antisocial to want privacy; it's not antisocial to want a predictable experience during transit. A Waymo is substantially less likely than a human stranger to rob or kill or rape you; Uber added a feature where women riders can set a preference for hiring women drivers to avoid tension and danger. The human element of taxis is a downside unless you fancy yourself Miss Daisy.

I do live in a dense city with rail and it's slower, especially accounting for last-mile transit. Rail does have traffic, they just sit next to you and you have to navigate around them on foot.

It's also not true that there's no advantage to Waymo; I take rideshare and taxis everywhere, and it will be a massive draw turning that into a pure transaction with a robot instead of it being a potentially social experience based on the whims and social malfunctions of the driver you get that day. As soon as Waymo or equivalent is available everywhere I will never choose to take a human-driven car again. And that's before getting into the many traffic advantages afforded to a fleet of cars that act as a collaborative swarm.

To me that does describe the greater good. For all its real benefits, passenger rail is inflexible and bulky in comparison.

> Aka your pure fantasy that you present as fact. Of course there might be idiots who may claim to "seize the means of private transportation" or something like that, but let's not pretend it's a serious argument.

I realize I could have phrased it better, but I was not talking about anybody seizing the means of private transportation. I was talking about train fetishists cheekily implying that people love their precious cars, which you did.

I also haven't argued that trains don't carry more people at once, I've just said that they suck in every other way. I also haven't argued to take away anything. Trains already exist almost everywhere they make sense to exist, which is apparently to funnel people back and forth in Japan and a couple of northeast US states on entirely private rail. It's honestly hard to find anything in your reply that intentionally or otherwise is actually responding to anything I said.