lnenad

I agree 100%.

I mean that's fair. I disagree as a European though :).

If you take a good SWE salary in Munich (example 80k), and compare it to an average/solid software shop in the states that gives 200k. Expenses can comparatively quadruple and you will still have much more at the end of the month to do with as you please. You can live in so many places in the states where this salary is realistic. But only a handful of places in Europe even have salaries that could come close as a concept. Switzerland that could get you there has even higher expenses and even there only FAANG offers such salaries.

And outside of software, doctors in the states make many multiples compared to European ones. Most blue collar workers make multiples, lawyers make multiples, pretty much any job you take you can make much more. I agree that life is better in Europe and I'd choose to live here 9/10 times, but that's down to mentality and the fact there's a reason we're less productive than you.

How do Dubai, SA, Qatar and similar fit into that picture?

It doesn't scale linearly. You'd be underestimating how expensive it has become in most of the third world now-a-days. You'd be making 10x+ while spending a few times more. Spending also has a cap (depending on lifestyle). If you're in engineering your salary continues to grow with experience.

People are moving to the states not because it's a great country, it's because they're able to make money there. More money than in their home country. This of course is not an indicator of *general* attractiveness but it still makes the country itself attractive as most of the people are seeing more money as a way to have a better life.

This is all good and full of great opinions but these are the same arguments used by artisans during the industrialization against machines. Does it matter really to hand over a large chunk of this work to AI, in the grand scheme of things? Not really. Most python apps were slop written by humans, the analogue of mass market goods. Same principle will apply here, high quality goods are still usually hand made even today. From a software standpoint, if you need something niche, max performance, max security or whatever you will probably hire the best humans instead of handing it over to Opus 7.8.

The wheels are in motion and there's pretty much nothing we can do to stop them.

For slower machines it's much better to use a cloud model, but Qwen3.5 4B can do the job and is fast enough on older machines.

I literally today pushed v0.1 of my dictation app that does both in a single package. You can connect either to a cheap LLM but I've set it up out of the box to use Qwen3.5 9b which does the job well for free, and everything stays local, no telemetry. You can also use Claude/OpenAI/Local providers. https://github.com/lnenad/lipwise

They've got an image of their homegrown benchmark in the post that lists DS4.1.

Thoughts/opinions aren't source.

> The catchup models are all basically distillations of the sota models

Source/citation?

Yes, but compared to seeing 3k lines of code in a PR with no history with vibes in the description, what is better? This definitely "feels" like something worth exploring.

If you use a bajillion tokens your economical approach is to self host.

What does saying "working tech" do for you? If I have a working Samsung CRT from 25 years ago do I ping them about smart TV support? Nowadays it's a shitty situation with planned obsolescence; but 6 years for an open source project dedicating resources to a dead end is more than enough and appreciated.

I'm well aware but it just reaffirms that it's a cluster fuck from a product perspective and makes no sense to create such a weird segmentation. You didn't even mention Jules lol, who knows where it fits in.

What is happening at Google? It seems like they've got multiple teams building the same thing and competing for love from the higherups. Depending on who's in the lead the chosen package gets into the spotlight. It's been Jules, then Gemini, then Agy, now Gemini is back???? What are they smoking over there and what kind of a customer base do they hope to get with this.

The agent wrote the code that has a mechanism that triggers a file as a side effect. That file started the separate process, as it could have started any other binary.

But you're not actually hijacking the agent if you start a new process.

Yeah, I agree, this is a different vector. Still scary though and very related to AI.

But there is a cool blog post about it though.

48c 7643. I'm getting about 10tps @Q3kxl with 2x3090s.

I'm getting about 10tps @Q3kxl with 2x3090s.

What model are you interested in? DS Flash 0731@Q4KXL I'm about 25-30tps. Same as the new Qwen3.8 Flash Next. The new GLM 5.3Q3KXL at 10tps. I've got 2x3090s which I didn't mention in the original message.

About 5k with RAM and GPUs bought used. Eastern Europe.

I am getting 10t/s on unsloth's Q3kxl with 2x3090s@250w. It's enough for me for now. I will probably upgrade the GPUs down the line. DDR5 would have made the price of the machine double and I just wasn't prepared to pay that much.

Temp wise, no throttling, surprisingly cool.

I have just built an Epyc with 512gb DDR4 3200 RAM for a "reasonable" price and I'm hoping to have a setup with GLM as the architect and Qwen 27b/Next Flash as the implementer. This is 1/5 of the price of the Mac, but also probably 1/5 of the speed lol.

But there isn't? What does it factually mean to be conscious? How can we claim other living beings aren't are conscious?

I've got a 48c Epyc with 2x3090s and 512gb ddr4 3200. It's good enough for 25+ tps with deepseek so I'm hoping for similar performance with less overthinking.

Yeah I understand, it's my assumption that the actually/wait/but have a point. It doesn't reduce the fact that it increases the time for tasks substantially.

Especially on practical tasks. One shot prompts work better at Q6_K_XL for me. It loads a file, then analyses then second guesses itself then again then again then it tries to come up with a solution then second guess rinse and repeat. 122b is the perfect balance but it lacks quality for harder to solve stuff. I've ran DS Flash 0731 at Q4KXL, 3.8 Q6KXL, GLM 5.2 Q4KXL and they all over-reason. At least that's how it looks like to me when comparing with frontier models, even weaker ones.