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I'm not young anymore, in my 40s, but I have hope that in the next 40 years some of them will stop being a dick and do actual work.
It's never too late to change.
after working home for 3 years, I missed being out of my house, even though I am not the most social person you'll find at my office.
I think the balance is some remote, when you fill it, and the rest in a real office, with real people.
secondly, go live close to the job, the closest possible.
it takes me 15 minutes now from door to door and it made my life much better.
Yes, work rights wise Europe is much better.
Full stop.
It's not anti American sentiment, it is what it is.
Do you a right to paid sick leave?
I mean, by the law?
No, you don't, it is worse.
Do you have the right to holidays?
I mean, by the law?
No, you don't, it's worse.
Do you have the right to a proper maternity leave?
I mean, by the law?
Almost, but not really.
WHO reccommends at least 16 weeks, you have 12.
In Italy we have - mandatory, 100% salary - 2 months before childbirth, and 3 months after.
But it could be extended if the doctors say so.
If the mother want, and doctors agree, she can take less time and that time can be used by the father.
This is by the law, nationwide.
Doctors BTW are free and prepaid by taxes, so any woman has free support before, during and after the delivery.
Even if she has no money.
So yes, USA is worse.
security.
You are going around with company secret data.
You are moving them outside of the company network, which is heavily controlled.
Not all businesses thinks it's ok to put data on Amazon S3.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, but they have their reason, the most important of them is "things have worked until now because we do the things as we do them, what if we change and things don't work anymore"?
Fear of change is a real thing in big established businesses.
the 99% of jobs need the time to manage you, not the contrary.
they are not task based, they are presence or hourly based.
If you go to the bank, they need to be there.
If you go to the hospital, they have to be there.
If you go to a bar, they'll be there.
From x to y.
It's not about time management, it's about presence management.
> It shows me you value me as a person, and not just me sitting in a desk
Most of the time sitting at the desk is THE job.
The guys that clean my office before I arrive would love to be sitting at the desk.
> Letting me work a day or two remotely, start or finish late can save me hours of commute time, flight costs, etc
That sounds good, but apart from edge cases, living close to where you work is almost always a smarter move than commuting.
And most of the things you're talking about are easily gained with time.
To trust people you have to know people.
At my current job I had to punch in and out 4 times a day, 9-13, 14-18.
After 9 months, more or less it, became 2 times a day, when you arrive in the morning and when you come back from lunch.
Now I get in at 11 and go out at 17, with at least an hour of lunch break.
Nobody says anything anymore.
Do you know the presumption of innocence principle?
> I absolutely would lose my job if I was holding a high leadership, PR position at my company for making idiotic statements. You would too.
I dare you try and lose at this game.
I can't lose my job, I live in a country where workers freedoms are protected.
Especially when expressing opinions as private citizens and not while doing their job.
You probably should learn a few things about what RMS stood for, even for a low standard country like the US.
> Why should anyone care about what YOU
For no reason.
In fact I'm ok with it.
You are crying that are tired.
> You guys are the type of people to get mad at the world and can't understand why you're hated by everyone
I really don't care.
I'm loved by the people I love, you, believe me, are less than dog shit to me.
And I'm quite sure it's reciprocal, and that's ok.
It is very saddening though to watch "you guys" still using this pathetic tactics...
This are things people use to say when they are kids, to try get under other people's skin and make them angry.
They don't work with functioning adults.
Are you sure you aren't the one everybody hates?
Looks like it's very important for you to be loved, you;re obsessed with it.
Have you talked with someone about it?
> RMS by his own account hasn't written actual code in decades
And Bosso hasn't played any music in ages, and Schumacher hasn't driven a race car in years.
Guess what? they can't anymore!
So what?
> So he had that going for him as well.
What makes you so sure you're not gonna be next?
> Oh wait... it's literally PR for FSF's values
He was founder and president of the FSF foundation.
He stood up for FSF values, because FSF values are HIS values.
He made them. they didn't exist before him.
He wasn't a PR, he was himself.
A PR is someone who works in public relations, he never did that.
share a netflix account with friends for kids while the adults watch movies and tv shhows on popocorn time.
I was replying to
> However, as you start pushing beyond "scale" Go is designed for
Go is designed for Google scale, I don't know anybody pushing beyond Google scale right now.
Anyway, I'm a nice person, you'll find your answer below
Enjoy
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most of those projects are legacy software
did you expect search to be written in a language invented 10 years in the future?
Go is slowly replacing C++ to write the tooling.
C++ is simply not scalable enough for day by day use, Linus knew that 15 years ago.
Even Firefox is replacing it for its engine, it must mean something.
It can be done in C++ doesn't mean it should anymore.
Java is there because it runs in ads systems, you don't replace your core product overnight, just like in some banks you still find Cobol.
Java is the new Cobol.
Fuchsia is written mainly in C and Dart.
You wanna write an Haiku style microkernel?
C++ is fine, it's just a few thousands line of code.
Wanna write millions lines of code in a maintainable way at Google scale?
You don't start the project in C++ today, unless you're a crazy person.
Even ES5 Javascript is more maintainable than C++.
that's a big IF
and BTW Stallman notoriously complained about absurd legal result, that's his real life achievement: a legal framework for free software!
that's his bread and butter.
> if someone has a history of doing and saying things that other people take indicative of treating women as less than fully equal,
that's false premise
> You lost me here. Do you mean to say someone could claim I libeled them?
Yes.
Because "defending rich old men screwing young kids" never happened.
It's a fabricated lie.
And I'm Italian, my grandfather was a partisan, I know what I'm talking about.
BTW, I am yelling, because what he said is perfectly reasonable, given the context.
For what?
For stating the obvious?
This time he didn't do anything wrong, other than pointing out what everybody in their right mind think: a dead person who cannot defend himself anymore was being falsely accused of child rape but the evidence just proved that he did no such thing and that, anyway, admitting there was sex involved, it wasn't pedophilia.
> I'm tired of his jackassery.
Who cares what you are tired of?
I'm tired of this constant wining, just because you're alive it doesn't mean your feelings are _so_ important.
But I don't want you to be fired because of it.
> is the age of consent with what is obviously a sensitive subject
so we should not talk about what you think is a sensitive subjects?
It isn't for me, I live in Europe, age of consent in my country is 16.
Are you so self entitled?
Who do you think you are?
> Just don't do a surprised Pikachu when people hate him and want him gone.
People are stupid.
I don't care what people think.
It's just what it is, he wasn't defending his friend, which, BTW, is not even accused of raping anybody.
> The comment was inappropriate
Like this is new for RMS...
I never said he is not weird, I've said he never supported or praised or defended rapists.
That's enough to prove who said it wrong.
It's all in the transcripts, it's all there, word by word.
> Those are the rules of the game (public relations),
But he's not a PR.
He has never been.
"Context: In a recently unsealed deposition a woman testified that, at the age of 17, Epstein told her to have sex with Marvin Minsky. Minsky was a founder of the MIT Media Lab and pioneer in A.I. who died in 2016. Stallman argued on a mailing list (in response to a statement from a protest organizer accusing Minsky of sexual assault) that, while he condemned Epstein, Minsky likely did not know she was being coerced:
> We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that she presented herself to him as entirely willing. Assuming she was being coerced by Epstein, he would have had every reason to tell her to conceal that from most of his associates.
Some SJW responded by writing a Medium post called "Remove Richard Stallman". Media outlets like Vice and The Daily Beast then lied and misquoted Stallman as saying that the woman was likely "entirely willing" and as "defending Epstein". He has now been pressured to resign from MIT
Furthermore the deposition doesn't say she had sex with Minsky, only that Epstein told her to do so, and according to physicist Greg Benford she propositioned Minsky and he turned her down:
> I know; I was there. Minsky turned her down. Told me about it. She saw us talking and didn’t approach me.
This seems like a complete validation of the distinction Stallman was making. If what Minsky knew doesn't matter, if there's no difference between "Minsky sexually assaulted a woman" and "Epstein told a 17-year-old to have sex with Minsky without his knowledge or consent", then why did he turn her down?
Edit: He has also resigned from the Free Software Foundation, which he founded. Grim news for free software, since I think true-believing purists like Stallman are vital to prevent various kinds of co-option."
source: https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/d5axzu/why_...
He expressed an opinion as single individual person, he didn't ask for support or rioting against someone or something.
And he didn't ask for nobody to be fired in the first place.
> and that's why people are pissed at him
No, they are pissed because people suck.
They've been also pissed at Terry Davis, another troubled man (more troubled than RMS for sure), that didn't harm anybody in his life, except himself.
Agree, and that's exactly the kind of absurd RMS was talking about.
That's it, just that.
He can't concive that something is illogical.
Does he deserve the blame for it?
> let's just say that if defending rich old men screwing young kids is apparently your hill to die on
It never happened though.
That's the point: in court you could be charged for saying it.
That's why USA are the motherland of mass shootings then...
I'm 18 today, my girlfriend is one day younger than me, it's rape.
What a lovely country.
> If both persons involved are living in Serbia it is OK
But is it OK for you?
Because you implied that I was ok with it...
I'm curious now.
> No one said he did. But he, completely uncalled fo
Like he always did?
Did someone called him to invent the GPL?
> defended someone who did
But he did not.
That's utterly false.
> and he did it by trying to put the blame on a victim
He was arguing that it wasn't not pedophilia but statutory rape.
I don't know why you people love so much to put words in the mouth of RMS, he's perfectly capable of shooting himself in the foot.
It won't be the last time.
It still does not make him someone who argues in favour of rape.
Like... he wrote about it?
Many others did, nobody lost the job.
It must be horryfying to read someone else's opinion in 2019 America...
You're talking like Stallman is some kind of new Ted Bundy...
> And yes, I repeated myself many times to several people saying similar things with the intention of facing all of the threads with a similar challenge. So what?
are you sure you're not simply obsessed with it?
He just expresses on honest opinion on the matter.
Like he always did all of his life.
> That's not how argument works.
To prove you wrong I don't have to prove an alternative scenario.
You are wrong, that's enough.
Secondly: their strong leadership brought us an hacker community devoted to the product and correctness of the result, regardless of their personality, as technical leader they excelled and when they went over the line it was for the benefit of the community, never for their ego.
Now we have weaker leadership, attention has moved from being right to being popular, salaries are valued more than technical skills, corporations have infiltrated open source communities changing the meaning of `free` in free software from "free as in free speech" to "free as in free beer" and we ended up with package managers that install trojans or display ads.
If NPM leadership was made by pedantic, ruvid, sometimes assholes, the like of Linus and RMS, this would have never happened.
My reasoning is: rape victims are victims regardless of age, gender, ethnicity, time and space.
But it's not Twitter crowd that decides if it is rape or not.
Although it looks like you really believe that's what happened, it is not what happened.
And no amount of repetitions can change the fact that he did not "defend his friend from rape accusations".
> It doesn't matter if it didn't happen
It kinda matters though...
> That gets you fired. Even if it is entirely hypothetical.
And that's absurd.
We always arrive at the same conclusion.
EDIT:
can I ask you why all these comments look the same?
it kinda looks like a pattern to me...
Rape is always illegal.
Sex is not.
> Just like drinking with 21 and 20.99 years is not the same, because
they're American.
We start at 18, no problems here, no mass shootings, no one selling out to older people to buy alcohol for them.
> So by applying your logic to that, 13 and 364 days would be OK too?
So by your logic 14 and 1 days is ok?
Or, as Stallman said, rape cannot be defined by minor things such as the place where it happened or the age when it happened?
> How do you feel about that, not entirely comfortable right?
Completely.
It's your country that allows older people have sex with baby girls, not mine.
> Because you're used mentally to 18 years being the line,
Don't assume we are all like you.
I'm mentally used to being normal at 15-16...
Because that's the age when people around me started, when I was their age.
> But all the laws are like that
Not even those about rape are all black and white.
Even statutory rape is usually treated differently if the minor is just around the age of consent or not.
> If 18 is the legal age, you just don't mess with minors, how complicated is that really?
That's exactly what Stallman did.
He never messed with minors.
What upset you so much?
It's the most plausible explanation.
And now there's good Linus, there's no RMS anymore, but we have this
https://developers.slashdot.org/story/19/08/30/1529201/npm-b...
Which world do you prefer?
That's not what happened.
So he's being punished for thinking out loud and not apoligising for thinking out loud?
Because IRL there's no attorney of defense.
You can just throw accusation in the air and somebody else get hurt.
And that's absurd.
Do we all agree on this?
for different reasons
- 17 years 364 days is any different from 18 years old 0 days?
- Stallman was talking (at the time) about consensual sex, not rape
- Stallman said he found absurd that rape was defined in terms of `minor details` not that rape does not exists. He's not wrong.
> still American moral and culture norms apply.
In USA people should be horrified by Facebook spying kids[1], not about what Stallman thinks
[1] https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/29/facebook-project-atlas/