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The “right” response is owning your mistake, apologizing, rolling back AND talking face to face.

Patronizing “sorry you got your feelings hurt” responses are pretty much canned apologies.

Except it’s not a screw up, is it? I’m not saying it’s malicious, and I feel your caricature of “twirling mustaches” is useless and detracts from the point.

It’s not a “screw up”. It’s also not malicious per se. It’s insensitive and shows a lack of care for the community. They deliberately turned on a bot that would overwrite work done by people, and make these people work with diffs and proofreading, without them having a say in it. In production!

It’s not like they can’t test it. Or involve everyone. There are locale leaders, as the Italian person alluded to.

This is shitting on community, and then going “sorry not sorry”, because they’re not rolling it back and they’re saying “I’m sorry you got your feelings hurt, wanna talk”?

This CAN be sorted out. And I believe it will. But it WAS insensitive and it WAS a case of not caring for the people who put their time and effort in voluntary work that benefits you. It’s really bad, no matter the intentions.

“Basket case countries” who “can’t manage themselves” and immediately points fingers at global south countries and goes on to talk about everyone providing military stability…

I would love to be so confident as to write this kind of weird stuff with a straight face.

America? The one with all the spying, NSA, Patriot Act, this America?

You are dead wrong about Brazil, our legislation about online privacy is pretty advanced. The European Union is not a country but has pretty solid legislation as well. Other South American countries on the list are pretty good as well.

You seem to be making a blanket statement about “not the first country I think about when…” of places you know nothing about.

This drives me nuts. You move to another city, risk your livelihood on a new job that you don’t know if is gonna work out for you. Your kids go to a new school, your partner has to either move to find a new job, or make it work long distance for a while… Your whole life changes on what is essentially a bet, you have no security whatsoever. And people say the risk is not yours.

Also - and I think this is the main thing - you have NO SAY in any of it after you sign that contract. An owner DECIDES to close shop. To fire people. You risk being fired for whatever reason comes to the mind of your boss, manager, director, owner.

But yeah, no risk. No risk at all.

And what about all the developing and testing of models? What about all the OTHER companies that can’t wait to get a piece of this cake and are training and scraping the internet like there’s no tomorrow? And all the companies that are integrating LLMs into their daily workflows using tons of api calls daily?

Come on…

Something that caught my attention is how they started with Chinese design and engineering because that was where the knowledge was. They they learned and appropriated that knowledge to the point where this was not needed anymore.

I love this approach, as it’s not purely commercial, it’s focused on knowledge, and it’s not “stealing” tech, they probably have that on their contracts and the like.

Also, it’s EXACTLY what China set out to do a few decades ago, and foreign industrialists and capitalists were so eager to spend less, they flocked over there, and the Chinese now have the knowledge as well as the labor force do to what they do.

Some people love to cry about how China is “stealing” American tech, when in reality no one ever pointed a gun at a tech CEO’s head and said “you must move manufacturing to China.” They did it because it was profitable, and they knew the terms.

I’m not saying industrial espionage doesn’t happen in China, it does, as it does anywhere else. I just don’t like the rhetoric of saying they’re “bad” for doing a perfectly legal business tactic.

Guilty as UNchanged*

You’re saying when executives compete, their average salary goes higher, but when workers like us compete, our average salary gets smaller?

I mean, we have stuff called “windows”, “word”…

“Water” is as good a name as any other. Congrats on your work, I look forward to testing it out this weekend!

> But if you're on the lower income scale and you need Uber to help you get between your second and third job (because you can't afford a car and public transit is unreliable) or you need it to get to a doctor's appointment, this kind of change is a big deal.

Well, in this line of thinking, you should just tell people to quit their third job and go drive an Uber, I hear they'll be paying more as a minimum wage...

There's no excuse to keep people in poverty because other people are poor.

Yeah, amazing work, and so beautiful!

What I ended up thinking was how we can always see what's ahead in 2d / 3d (of course, without obstacles), and how we cannot see anything in the fourth dimension in this particular world. Could this ability be somehow recreated for 4D? Looking ahead/behind, being aware of what's happening "nearby" on the fourth axis?

Very interesting, look forward to more news about this game!

Or maybe "did" should be changed to "have", and we'd all be fine...

Two words, though: unmetered bandwidth.

THAT's the name of that service!! I remember trying to find it about a year ago, and was never able to. I even asked here on HN and reddit, to no avail.

So sad it disappeared, it seemed to be an awesome idea.

Came to see the comments hoping someone would mention it. Thank you!

Or that their cities can't really cope with the amount of people they currently have.

Yeah, I thought about that too, but I'm pretty sure that there are lots of cases where you don't care.

In our case, I know we would both EASILY take that trade off. Sending her imaging exams via, well, whatever really, on the same day, and get SOME answer. Instead of waiting anxiously for days and then hours at a hospital waiting room, stressed out and missing work.

Yeah, I'd take that any day for most things.

Brazilian here (and surprised to see they used Brazilian research software in a top HN story!). Couple years ago, my wife had a mass on her throat that turned out to be thyroid-related but (thankfully) benign.

I had the EXACT same feeling as you, and feel we're copying the US in only the wrong aspects. "A bunch of busy, reasonably bright people caught up in an insane circus" sums it up better than I could. I'll digress here and vent about another aspect of it, but I liked your links about too much data, thanks.

Not sure how it is in the US, but what is strange for me here is that it's not only about cutting-edge tech, even old stuff (Email? Messaging of any kind? Hell, phone calls!) is not really used by our hospitals and doctors.

Here, if you do any type of imaging exams, y'll have to wait a few days for the results, get them on the lab - physically -, schedule another doctor appointment, wait an hour or so in the waiting room just so your doctor can take a look at the images and tell you, basically: "Ok, you're fine", or "Hmm, I need these other exams to be sure. Here, take this piece of paper where I describe what I need and get it done".

Seriously, we use instant messages delivered to phones all around the world simultaneously to share pictures of ourselves, of our cats, dogs and dinners, just for a giggle. And we can't do it to save lives!

Assuming you can, you know, build a vehicle that can correct its course in flight in space, right? :)

Main problem with local hosting solutions is pricing, I think.

I can get a DO VPS machine with a reasonable performance for US$ 5/mo, while most known Brazilian providers would set me back about US$ 20/mo for a similar machine. If latency is not a big issue for you, it just doesn't make sense to host it here, unfortunately.

Haven't read Piketty - not sure I can handle it with the almost-insignificant knowledge I have about economy - but this argument seems very reasonable.

I've only read people writing ABOUT Piketty's book, and haven't seen anyone put it this way.

I'm from Brazil, and with the upcoming elections people have been all sorts of crazy down here, throwing around whatever "facts" they can find on the internet. One of the main points of disagreement between the two presidential candidates is income distribution, so "data" about it has been all over the news and conversations.

This kind of tax, if only to shed the faintest light on the matter, would definitely help. Even considering that the really wealthy people would not declare everything they have, there's only so much you can hide.

Thank you for this comment.

Not sure that is entirely correct... What about funding research, for example? Isn't that philanthropy that might benefit everyone, including poor people?

This is EXACTLY the same situation as here in Brazil. Very few well renowned private universities, but the very best ones are the state universities.

The federal and state universities here in Brazil have always been free. In fact, most people here use the terms "public" as a synonym for "free of charge", when talking about education. I think this is great, but it is not "education for everyone" as sometimes it's touted to be.

The problem we have is not about paying for college education, but in being able to pass the entry exams. Even though the public higher-education institutions are free of any tuition fees, an enormous part of their students is still composed of upper-middle-class kids, whose parents could afford the high-priced private middle and high schools.

It's great we have free public schools, but the inclusion they should provide is still a long ways of becoming true.

Doesn't "equivalent to" in this case mean "the mice equivalent to the maximum accetptable in humans"?

This. Brazilian here, lived in Californa for a year, and could have stayed longer with relative ease at the time. There's really NOTHING stopping you from living somewhere else if you really wanted.

Well, apart from paperwork, study of the country/state/city you want to go to. If that's too boring and you want the "no questions asked, come work here" treatment, I guess there is something stopping you after all.

While we're at it, does "a loss of neurons for sleep" really make sense in this case? Sounded weird to me... Is someone really losing neurons FOR sleep? What does this mean?

(Not criticizing, really. As a non-native English speaker, this sounded weird, but I might well be wrong. So I'm asking a genuine question, albeit with a "I think this might be wrong" tone)

I'm pretty much with you here. Saw a few comments on how it's hilarious and awesome copy, and all I saw was a bunch of cursing and... Well, and more cursing, I guess.

Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty foul-mouthed myself, a bit too much, even. And I'm not totally against cursing in a page like this, target audience and all that.

But I find this to be totally UNfunny. Reminds me of a little kid saying "poop!" and bursting into laughter. Made me scared about my age as well.

Dozens. I have literally (and I mean 'literally', well, literally) dozens of projects that I never got even close to finishing or shipping.

Kudos to the author for shipping something that - like everything else - is not perfect and has room for improvement, but is out there anyway.