malwarebytess

> The dawn of conscious machines will introduce vast new potential for suffering in the world, suffering we might not even be able to recognize, and which might flicker into existence in innumerable server farms at the click of a mouse.

May as well say the same of human reproduction, or animal husbandry (especially of the industrialized/factory kind.) We already assume these powers for ourselves, collectively, at the scale of billions, what difference does it make if it's consciousness in silicon instead of flesh?

Civilization, society, progress, all of it is fueled by the suffering of living things -- human and not.

This kind of tyrannical obsession over minutiae, the sheer spectacle and narcissism, leaves me feeling ill.

Modern nuclear weapons do not have significant fallout. Fallout is lost yield.

> if Section 230 is weakened by the court. Unlike other companies that hire content moderators, the content that Reddit displays is “primarily driven by humans—not by centralized algorithms.”

Not true. Reddit mods enforce reddit rules, primarily. These rules have grown increasingly onerous over time. There is no more restrictive ruleset on reddit than those imposed by reddit inc. itself. This includes moderation by automoderation scripts written and enabled by volunteer moderators, at the behest(and their own) of reddit.

Indeed, if reddit moderators do not enforce the rules of reddit then they will lose their positions as moderators and likely be banned as well.

Defcon ripoff

I have a Tesla (M3.) But it's stories like these that will make my next electric not a Tesla.

From the failure to deliver FSD, to the inability to quickly fix their out-of-factory fitment problems, to anti-customer policies like these they're quickly souring in my mind.

At least the car is a blast to drive.

edit: FWIW looks like Tesla decided to do the right thing,

> While I don't think it's ideal to need a huge social media push to get things accomplished, thanks to the momentum this thread has generated it seems like we've got a path forward with Tesla towards getting this taken care of the right way.

https://twitter.com/wk057/status/1551986133780889602

Everyone here thinks it's normal because they're within the system. Those of us outside of it can see it's insane and dehumanizing.

"How does a site for helping White people, discriminate against non-White people?

It clearly states it is targeting people who want to live or post in a White friendly place."

Have there been many thorough studies of the efficacy of these hotlines?

Upon contacting AWS account manager:

> Yes, our aws account manager was great and tried to get an exception, but the exception was denied as there is no revenue coming from marketplace from us… not surprising since they won’t let us on marketplace. Another catch22!

Here's an example.

California passes a law, and because doing business in California is good for the bottom line they will comply with the law, and in so doing set a new defacto national standard. But, if this burden becomes too onerous, the business can simply not do business with California or move out of California. But, California is such a large market it's quite a high burden to reach.

Pretty sure that's around the threshold dose, so you're right.

So based on this clarification, then, it was targeted to executives. If that is the case I really don't see the problem.

No because 4chan is heckin' problematic, ya'll.

Yes I am. In my view people with NPD probably should be isolated from society in the same way an irredeemable criminal should be; that is because narcissists will never stop harming people if left to their own devices. If it's possible to do this without causing too much harm to society or our concept of justice, then it should be done.

Thing is we already do this. The only step that would be novel would be allowing new inputs into the system.

We already institutionalize millions of people with mental disorders. When there's no focus on mental disorders and treatment that's where prisons come in, when there is a focus on mental disorder and treatment then mental hospitals come into the picture.

The sorting already happens. The differences would be in where do we begin intake, and where do we place people.

It's intractable. There is no solution except teaching people how to identify and protect themselves from narcissists, or institutionalization.

People with narcissistic traits can work towards undoing the damage done to them; but, once you're at the level of a personality disorder it becomes more about coping with the inevitable and continuous fallout. Genetics, trauma, and childhood abuse all come together to create a shell of a human being who, motivated by self-preservation, exists only to consume, exhaust, and expel other human beings.

There are no evidenced treatments, and there is no saving them. They are not capable of changing -- if they were, they wouldn't be (by definition) narcissists. The best thing we can do is teach people to identify and protect themselves from these lost souls.

I know of one. Many won't like it, though, because it involves flexing the muscles of the state. And at the end, I'm not sure the potential benefits outweigh the real risks.

It's different from layoffs. RIF comes with the implication that the reduction is permanent.

I'm expecting brutal, decimating, RIF across the industry at the end of Q2.

I have to agree with you. It's not necessarily a bad thing. Where people get their fulfillment from is their own business, and if their needs are met -- all the better. Everyone deserves contentment and fulfillment.

But, don't force me to make my life worse for that reason. You like the office? Go to the office.

Warning: Hot Take.

I genuinely believe many people who prefer working in an office versus at home have unfulfilling social lives or bad home lives. The social dynamics, competition, in physical offices fills the void in their lives. Also seems like most of the people clamoring for a return to the office are also climbers & middle managers.

For some work a physical presence is required not just preferable, but for most of a software engineer's day to day there really is no unquestionable upside.

I'll quit before I go back full time. I've never been happier or more fulfilled with my work/life balance, and I've never been more productive with my time. I'll even take a different remote position at a 20% pay cut and a reduction in equity, at least, to retain WFH. Most I'm willing to give is a day a week in office, and maybe temporarily longer in rare circumstances where the benefit in performance is clear.

I don't even look at reviews when it's time to add more storage. I go straight to these updates. Hasn't steered me wrong.

This type of data collection should be illegal and heavily punished, public or private.

The damage it is doing far outweighs the benefits of temporary profits.

creativity I think is fundamentally synthesis. a large, varied, vocabulary of concepts is important for this, but I think more important is a high drive for novelty. such a drive probably leads to larger 'vocabularies.'

It's sickening to me that corporations can engage in politics as "investment."

Fascinating to me the level of vitriol that spews from people on this guy. He's just a guy, you know?

Seemed fine to me.

If you don't like what you see on the internet, walk away, turn off your device, uninstall the app, stop visiting that address.

thanks for your 2c.

I wonder what googlers think about discussions like this? It doesn't seem like a rare opinion among techies that Google search has been declining in usefulness. Honestly, Google obfuscates the internet instead of making it accessible.

Google Sucks.