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mandmandam··on Are we Trek yet? – A guide for how close we are to Star Trek technology
> Land, labour and dilithium crystals are still scarce in the Star Trek universe.

Land can't be that scarce. How many times did we see an entire planet colonized by like 200 people? Also, it seems like very few cities in the future have put hard caps on building height.

People have their own replicators, as you say; and cheap abundant energy. The need for labour is vastly reduced.

And dilithium, while 'rare' is not an essential commodity for anything except space travel.

> even energy and material goods are scarce in the economic sense.

Sure; but they are abundant enough that 'fair distribution' hardly matters, which I think was the OP's point.

mandmandam··on Are we Trek yet? – A guide for how close we are to Star Trek technology
> What "The Federation doesn't have money" really means is, we don't want stories about Geordi worrying about how he's going to pay his nephew's rent or Data arguing about whether or not he his patent for some $TECH is being violated and he's not getting paid out properly. We don't want stories about how some medical issue could be fixed but Ensign Bob can't afford to pay for it. We don't want stories about Commander Sally arguing about her pay raise.

You don't seem to be acknowledging that rent goes down when basically anyone can start their own colony within a huge stretch of the galaxy, or that patents and wage comparison look kind of silly when everyone's basic needs are far beyond met, or that 'fixing a medical issue' becomes crazy cheap when replicator technology and computers are that far advanced.

> I would have written straight into the story bible that this is a framing device and authors are not to sit there and try to examine the details too closely

Star Trek: Lower Decks explored these ideas a bit more - right around the same time they were cancelled. Great episodes, highly recommend checking them out.

mandmandam··on AI comes up with bizarre physics experiments, but they work
You can do all the 'proving your chops' and in-the-box thinking in the world and still get ostracized for your creative insight.

* Semmelweis - medicine. Demonstrated textbook obstetric technique at Vienna General Hospital, then produced statistically impeccable data showing that hand-washing slashed puerperal fever mortality. Colleagues drove him out of the profession, and he died in an asylum.

* Barbara McClintock - genetics. Member of the National Academy, meticulous corn geneticist; her discovery of “jumping genes” (transposons) was ignored for 30 years and derided as “mysticism.”

* Georg Cantor - mathematics. Earned a Ph.D. and published dozens of orthodox papers before writing on transfinite numbers; was then declared “a corrupter of youth”. Career was blocked, contributing to a breakdown.

* Douglas Engelbart - computer science. Published conventional reports for years. When he presented the mouse, hypertext, and videoconferencing in “The Mother of All Demos” (1968), ARPA funding was slashed and he was professionally sidelined for the next twenty years.

Then you've got Stravinsky, Van Gogh, Caravaggio, James Joyce; all who displayed perfect 'classical' techniques before doing their own thing.

In economics you've got Joan Robinson and Elinor Ostrom.

And let's not forget Galileo. I'd even put Assange in this list.

So, "following the rules" before attempting to revolutionize your field doesn't seem to actually help all that much. This is a major problem, consistent across many centuries and cultures, which ought to be recognized more.

mandmandam··on Tough news for our UK users
>>> we are in a place with an order of magnitude less trouble building a business.

>> What is this claim based on?

> Blog posts I've read from I've read, largely in HN. Personal interviews in those countries.

Ok, well, as someone who has real experience of setting up a business in another country (which was "stolen from murdered inhabitants" and then reclaimed - Ireland) let me tell you: Business supports in Europe are quite strong, and accessible. The simple fact that ~60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck would suggest that setting up a business in America is not, in fact, "an order of magnitude easier" for the average person.

> We are the luckiest country on Earth by a country mile.

Sure, some of it was luck, but the secret ingredient was genocide.

And nowadays America is not the envy of the rest of the world the way it once was. The shine is very much gone.

Nearly all countries outside the US hold a net unfavorable opinion of Americans, minus a handful of exceptions, like Israel (!). There's not much jealousy or envy of the US any more. It's mostly an understanding pity, or an understandable condescension.

> many countries in Africa have vast resources they could exploit responsibly but don't.

Try doing a deep dive into what happens to African leaders who buck the trend of letting the West take all their resources. Patrice Lumumba, Sylvanus Olympio, Kwame Nkrumah, Eduardo Mondlane, Amílcar Cabral, Thomas Sankara, etc, etc, etc.

Have you ever seen the photo of a father holding his child's severed hands, cut off for not picking rubber fast enough for the Belgians? Blaming the victim here is pretty unacceptable to people who have learned anything beyond the sick narrative of 'well they choose weak leaders'.

And can you seriously call America's "resource exploitation" responsible?? Not if you know how they get all those resources (see above native genocide, and murdered African leaders; and don't forget South America!).

> Zero. No one forces you to work here

Perhaps in the narrowest sense, where no one points a gun to your head (unless you're in America's massive and grotesque prison system, in which case you are in every sense a slave, with a gun to your head forced to work for a pittance).

However America forces people into work in a myriad of 'soft' ways; from awful social supports, to wage collusion, to healthcare tied to employment, predatory student loan debt, at-will employment, immigration status, and so on, and on.

> The term "none of that is sustainable" suggests to me you've already decided on answers to all these non-gotcha questions.

Well, they're not.

Sure, I thought about my own questions. I wanted you to think about them, because they directly connect to your proud claim that Americans have it 10x easier to start a business. I hope you can see how, if you think about it.

mandmandam··on Beyond Meat fights for survival
It's bread.

Decent, non-toxic bread ought to be available even to people of "limited means". Even, I would assert, to people of no means at all. The US is the wealthiest nation of all time, and there is no excuse for there to be so many people hungry, much less poisoned. It's so wild that this needs to be said.

And, products that toxic shouldn't be sold at all; at least not without large warning labels in multiple languages.

mandmandam··on Beyond Meat fights for survival
And thanks to whoever flagged my initial comment for proving it even more, lol.
mandmandam··on Tough news for our UK users
> we are in a place with an order of magnitude less trouble building a business.

What is this claim based on?

Is there 10x as much stress among French business owners? Are entrepreneurs working 10x as hard in China? Are there 10x fewer businesses in England?

And, stepping back a bit: To the extent that running a business is easier in America, how much of that is because the US exploits and bullies the rest of the world?

How much is because it's a huge country with vast resources (that were stolen from its murdered inhabitants)?

How much is because the lack of regulations allows for rampant externalization of costs?

How much is because businesses are more 'free' to exploit their own workers?

How much is because most of the mechanisms for basic accountability are broken?

These aren't "gotcha" questions. They're fundamentally important to our future, because none of that is sustainable.

mandmandam··on Beyond Meat fights for survival
> It's not pointless pedantry at all, because whole foods are ALSO treated with chemicals.

That wasn't the point they were making. They made a purely pedantic point about the meaning of the word 'chemicals' in this context.

> Why are these chemicals less harmful than, say, citric acid used in "processed" minced garlic to preserve it?

I never said they are.

Besides which, I pay a premium for organic for that very reason. Glyphosate residue is a serious problem. And then there's all the agricultural runoff, biosphere contamination, chemical interactions, etc.

Less 'chemicals' is generally better; safer and healthier. It's super weird that people take issue with this simple statement, whether for pedantic reasons or through false equivalancies.

mandmandam··on Beyond Meat fights for survival
> You can buy any quality you want in the US, when willing to pay for it.

I didn't say you can't buy quality bread though. I know it's possible to find nice bread.

I said it's mostly inferior, and it is. The vast majority of bread in America is stuff that I would rather go hungry than eat.

... Thanks for proving my point about getting weirdly defensive.

mandmandam··on The bewildering phenomenon of declining quality
Fair point, I ought have made that clear. There are many ways in which Chinese people have it better than Americans these days, if my eyes are to be believed.
mandmandam··on Beyond Meat fights for survival
Particularly pointless pedantry. We all know what they mean, and are to assume the best reading of what they're saying.

Bread, the example they used, is a particularly stark example where Americans are subjected to stuff that is rightly banned in most of the rest of the world.

mandmandam··on The bewildering phenomenon of declining quality
You're giving a very poor reading of OP's argument, first of all. Jumping to the conclusion that they don't want Chinese people to have clean water is downright bad faith.

Second, "continued growth is good" is a hell of a thing to say on a planet with finite resources. There's a limit! And if you expand your worldview to include other life on this planet and not just society then we've pushed far beyond what's wise already.

mandmandam··on 'Europe must ban American Big Tech and create a European Silicon Valley'
> Letting most of your population twiddle your thumbs all summer without any consequences

What do you think the unemployment rate actually is in European countries?

Having a social safety net doesn't make most people want to loaf around. I get that there's a massive amount of propaganda on this point in the US, but like, it doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny.

> I'd love to see a Venn diagram of countries that "Actually Colonized" (tm) and countries with really generous welfare systems/labor protections.

I encourage you to try diagramming that and see how it goes. Don't forget to include Ireland and the Nordics ;) And always remember that correlation isn't causation.

While you're at it, maybe have a look at the research on inequality, or the benefits of social safety nets.

mandmandam··on U.S. will review social media for foreign student visa applications
You certainly seem to have hallucinated me saying anything about Trump.
mandmandam··on Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online
If you actually wanted counter evidence I'm sure you could find it yourself. There's enough of it out there.

So, what is it that you're actually looking for?

mandmandam··on Proposed NOAA Budget Kills Program Designed to Prevent Satellite Collisions
> But what feels true, too, is that the DNC hasn’t read it either. Or if they have, they’re not working against it

The DNC are sheepdogs, at best. Their role is to shepherd any sort of leftist energy into safely neutered channels. And science in general has big 'leftist energy'.

The campaign promises: "We'll end corporate donations! We'll end executive orders! We'll copper-fasten Roe! We'll end ICE! We'll stop the illegal forever wars! We'll legalize cannabis!" - have now devolved to, "vote for us and if you're lucky the Gestapo we funded won't raid your house in the middle of the night without a search warrant - or if they do, at least they won't be masked".

So, no. We're not going to get much help from the guys that 'failed' [0] to stop a rapist insurrectionist con-man from taking the Presidency, and it's really pretty silly to have any hope in them whatsoever.

0 - https://sarahkendzior.substack.com/p/servants-of-the-mafia-s...

mandmandam··on The Persecution of Francesca Albanese
God it's dire.
mandmandam··on U.S. will review social media for foreign student visa applications
> What is the evidence of "the left" censoring academia?

Here's a decent summary of how some of these censorship doors were opened: https://www.acsh.org/news/2024/02/25/covid-censorship-yes-bi...

There are also more vivid and recent examples, like barring universities from divestment from Israel (ie, 0]), which has happened in quite a few 'blue' states. Not to mention sending in armed police (ie, [1]) to break up peaceful anti-genocide protests.

0 - https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-israel-gaza-campus-p...

1 - https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-campus-p...

mandmandam··on Linda Yaccarino is leaving X
If you're serious, I recommend you take a look at this [0] and really have a good long think about it.

0 - https://www.oxfam.org/en/takers-not-makers-unjust-poverty-an...

mandmandam··on Linda Yaccarino is leaving X
> somebody

That he's the wealthiest known man in the world seems like relevant context here.

mandmandam··on Linda Yaccarino is leaving X
Cannabis with high CBD and minimal THC isn't a psychedelic, fyi.

Amazing you didn't get that point even after it was made explicitly clear three times, but you still remember my username 10 days later.

Also, asserting that someone who expresses class awareness and media literacy is dabbling in "alternative facts" and must be on some kind of psychedelic drugs is wildly uncalled for. This is the second time you've cast such aspersions on me for some reason - stop.

mandmandam··on Linda Yaccarino is leaving X
> He's an overgrown man-child.

Damn near every mega-billionaire is, almost by definition. If the best thing you can come up with to do with money is make more of it at other people's expense, then you're not even close to what I'd call mentally mature.

That doesn't stop many oligarchs from making cunning plans with layers and layers of depth, or being excellent at misdirection and media manipulation - both of which Musk also has a long and well documented history of showing. It also doesn't stop them from hiring people to make and/or refine those plans. Shit, there's probably cunning bootlickers out there, like Yarvin, just pitching this shit to them all the time.

> I just struggle with giving him as much credit as your theory does in terms of long term planning

As far as plans go, "buy Twitter and destroy it because it threatens our class interests - but pretend you're doing it for free speech or whatever" isn't especially complicated. Just piss off advertisers, users, and your staff, in plausibly deniable ways. It's not like corporate media are going to call you on it.

mandmandam··on The Texas Flooding Tragedy: Could It Have Been Avoided?
Climate change, wars for profit, mass censorship and surveillance, etc, aren't blameless issues - there are people doing these things, people like you and I (only wealthier). Fossil fuel companies knew for a fact that they were causing climate change, and responded by poisoning the global conversation while suppressing alternatives.

What's between us and a better world is class awareness. So, for example, when you say things like "Facebook and other large companies drive engagement above all else", you're missing a major piece of the puzzle.

The daily atrocities in Gaza could drive tremendous engagement on Facebook, were they not heavily censored and suppressed.

Same goes for mainstream media. Look how unanimous the opinion of the media and political class was against Luigi. Look how they chorused in unison with smears against Jill Stein, or against Assange, Snowden etc. Again, all people who had their stories suppressed on social media as well.

This also explains how with Greta "the main story surrounding her turned into questioning her" - there's an agenda that unites the tiny number of billionaires who own basically all media in the West. The element of class even explains neatly why the media stopped covering Greta - because she started connecting the world's issues to capitalism and inequality. (You know, like MLK did, right before he was assassinated.)

So please don't think I have a message of blamelessness for the world's issues. There's more than enough blame to go around, and the problems won't be fixed if we keep ignoring the problems stemming from massive wealth inequality.

mandmandam··on Linda Yaccarino is leaving X
> she was not to blame.

Fall guys bear some of the blame in the fall.

My long-held [0] personal theory - borne out by everything Musk has done, and by who bought Twitter - is that it was bought to curb the possibility of large positive social movements along the lines of OWS or BLM.

Enabling that can entail being useless at your supposed job, while doing your actual job (which deserves some amount of blame, from a number of perspectives).

0 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36685384

mandmandam··on Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts
It's the same with anything negative related to Musk, DOGE, etc. Examples below.

And you can't just blame people flagging the stories - people ask for them to be whitelisted and are gaslit in response. No surprise, maybe, when Garry Tan and PG are writing fluffy tweets about Musk and the DOGE team.

Examples:

"Musk’s DOGE Goons Surreptitiously Transmitted Reams of White House Data" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44258556

(Is it new that flagged stories don't link where they used to?)

"Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44142790

"Tornado warnings delayed because of DOGE cuts" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44018247

"Elon Musk's Doge Moves to Gut Local Libraries While No One Is Looking" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43445571

"Doge Claimed It Saved $8B in One Contract. It Was $8M" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43101757 (eventually unflagged).

"EFF Sues DOGE and the Office of Personnel Management" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43020091 (unflagged after hours)

"Elon Musk's rapid unscheduled disassembly of the US government" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43007319

... And so on.

I started keeping a list of falsely flagged stories that I noticed in my favorites recently, and it has grown quite large. Everything Musk is a dominant theme.

We're not even allowed to discuss this censorship outside of comments: "Ask HN: What's with flagging articles criticizing Musk?" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42907426 (There are many other examples of this, and it is explicitly HN policy not to permit discussing the flagging policies here, ie, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43058574.)

Yet prolific commenters here will still praise HN for having such little censorship - it's pretty disturbing.

mandmandam··on The Texas Flooding Tragedy: Could It Have Been Avoided?
> Basically, blue states that had more of them had results getting almost as bad as red states without them have it. Lives were saved at some acceptable lowering of test scores.

Are you seriously asserting that school closures are the difference between red state and blue state mortality rates??

> Nonsense. The points of your side were repeated and laundered and repeated and defended and then again. ... bullshit with researchers being censored

The censorship was vast and is well documented, ie, [0], [1], [2], etc. Facebook alone admitted to removing over 20 million posts, and suppressing at least 190 million.

> Not true. Vaccines came, covid went away. Babies cried about vaccines.

Did covid 'go away' in the global south, where they didn't have vaccines? Hmmmmm......

0 - https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/biden-administration-repeate...

1 - https://www.thefp.com/p/i-fought-government-censorship-and-w...

2 - https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/01/12/why-did-scientists-...

mandmandam··on The Texas Flooding Tragedy: Could It Have Been Avoided?
You aren't engaging with any of my points, just repeating the dogma - which helps proves my point.

> School closures worked well for preventing spread.

Show me the data.

And, at what cost? Was the juice worth the squeeze? ... How many teachers have you talked to lately? Because the universal consensus is that closures did serious damage, still being felt to this day.

And it's an undeniable fact, that conversation (among many others) was heavily suppressed. Researchers who raised it were shadow-banned from Twitter, Facebook etc. That's not science, it's authoritarian dogma from an unaccountable political class.

There were superior alternatives - putting air purifiers in classrooms would have been a big one. But we weren't permitted to even have that conversation.

> Vaccines actually solved the covid issue.

Or, basically everyone already got corona and now there's a level of herd immunity; like with every global pandemic ever. Did you see any data on this? Or are you 'trusting the science' which you haven't actually seen.

> Lockdowns did worked, actually.

Oh? So, you can point to countries where there were no lockdowns and they got torn apart, can you? ... Because researchers who have looked at that question say it isn't actually that clear [0].

The purpose of lockdowns was to slow the spread so that chronically underfunded and privatized healthcare systems wouldn't utterly collapse. Fair enough - but it wasn't presented that way, and investment in public health hasn't been improved since. Instead, most systems in the West seem stretched more than ever, while we have plenty of money for sending Israel bombs and weapons, or building concentration camps, or deporting people at ludicrous expense, etc.

... But that wasn't even what I was talking about - I was talking about how even questioning mandatory lockdowns was enough to make people lose their jobs, and get censored from mainstream and social media. It's not very scientific to censor scientists.

> there is no "both sides" on climate change. Republicans are actively trying to make it happen.

And Democrats pay lip service to stopping them, but don't seem very effective. And when something like Deepwater Horizon happens, or the DAPL protests, or support for fracking is an issue, where is the Dem leadership? Quietly backing the fossil fuel companies, every single time.

What's needed is radical change, immediately. That's the view of basically every scientist. Democrats pretend not to understand that. It's nowhere near good enough, and I see no reason to expect change; not the slightest glimmer of hope for what's necessary.

0 - https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250304-the-countries-th...

mandmandam··on The Texas Flooding Tragedy: Could It Have Been Avoided?
Corona conclusively proved that Democrats are every bit as capable of scientism as Republicans.

People - even leading scientists - who questioned natural origin, mandatory lockdowns, school closures, vaccine effectiveness, or any of a dozen other narratives were demonized and attacked in the name of science. "Do your own research" became a phrase of mockery, while "trust 'the' science" was used as a thought terminating cliché.

And neither party are really taking climate science seriously, it's just that one pays lip service a bit more.

mandmandam··on White House claims expansive power to nullify TikTok ban and other laws
The establishment aren't stupid and weak when they're fighting progressive candidates, third parties, or peaceful anti-genocide protesters. Or when they're enabling a holocaust while pretending to 'work tirelessly for a ceasefire'. They're shockingly competent when they want to be.

And the 'bipartisan' 'reaching out across the isle' has been their go-to since Obama used his super-majority to pass a Republican health care plan and ignore his campaign promises around torture, abortion, etc. I'm amazed it's still working for them.

The other ones they love to use are 'they go low we go high', or, 'we're just following procedure'; like when they 'failed' [0] to prevent a rapist, racist insurrectionist from running for Presidency again.

0 - https://sarahkendzior.substack.com/p/servants-of-the-mafia-s...

mandmandam··on White House claims expansive power to nullify TikTok ban and other laws
Honestly, no, it's not the least bit surprising that this was flagged. It's a damn-near inevitable consequence of letting anyone on the internet flag things.

What's truly ridiculous (though not surprising [0]) is that it still hasn't been white listed by HN moderators. They're the ones who bear responsibility for this major story being suppressed.

0 - Growing list of recent falsely flagged stories here: https://news.ycombinator.com/favorites?id=mandmandam

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