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The volume of code, addiction to said volume of code, and fact that the vibe coder may not have read it basically makes review impossible both logistically and in that IME it seems to upset the vibe coder to even suggest that it's fine to take a bit longer and do something good as opposed to some overfit mess.
It might be that we look back on this as like trying to review the assembly output of a compiler but I don't see it that way at the moment.
You have to be good enough to know what to ask for but not good enough to ask yourself what is needed next, or to say no to it - for example, you can fairly easily ask an agent to write small changes and so on, almost no one does.
Management are also seem the most prone to psychosis (IMO at least) e.g. if you are a once-technical manager it probably feels great to kind of being doing programming again with a minion who doesn't eat lunch?
I am yet to meet more than probably 2 vibe coders who uses their newfound "productivity" to try _new_ things as opposed to just pump out correct-looking slop - the problem here isn't just that there is now more code, but also that for some strange reason people seem to choose to automate the thinking as well as the coding.
I am yet to see any AI driven productivity around me. They can definitely turn a days work into a lot less time, this is magical, but I'm yet to see any "real" projects be delivered in a timeframe that's particularly different to what they would've taken previously.
Our energy is expensive and volatile because of this (and subsidies to implement it). You don't seem to be capable of following my argument. It's not a free lunch. Renewables are also slightly problematic for grid stability although I expect we will have enough fast storage / (possibly synthetic) inertia eventually.
"What if we don't fix the roof?"
"but it's sunny?"
This is patronising drivel.
We burn gas when there is no wind & sun. We do this because there no alternative other than the lights going out. You are not seeing the whole.
We have some of the most expensive energy in the world, what gives? I was told renewables were cheap
Would you rather be biased or blind?
not including $work discussions with energy traders.
If you have a steel mill for example you need to be able to basically guarantee a certain level of energy production to run it viably because the risk of there not being any power during adverse weather is enough to make it unviable (you can't just turn these things off). This is the reason why gas and nuclear probably aren't going away (or at least shouldn't).
It's so sad that given these amazing tools the average programmers attitude is to automate the things that should be their edge as an engineer.
Torvalds said that great programmers think about data structures. Midwits let the AI handle it.
Apple's MO is that it's their baby. End of. They don't do open. Their compiler is closed source, and so on.