mikelyons

I was wrong about attempted assassination, was thinking of Bush's: https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/clinton-punishes...

What do you think about the idea that it's all about Putin's revenge on USA for the attempted assassination?

You could say the same about America and Trump. The masses always will consume the propaganda, I don't see how this will ever be eliminated. Rather than sad, it's just part of the system. How can we improve the results? Is there a systems-thinking approach that takes this into account and bends it toward positive ends?

Meaning we need batteries?

Hehe, there could be people on HN who know they are talking to themselves in virtual space, but choose to engage anyway.

> _further their own gains_

That was what made me think you were refering to selfishness.

High consciousness by definition resists ideology. Ideology is a limitation of consciousness.

Trolls that are harassing, doxing, and SWATing, are doing it for selfish reasons, even if their excuse is something external.

Intimidating and silencing critics, classic stage red, sound like any presidents you know?

I don't disagree that trolling is effective, the majority of the population is somewhere in stage red/blue/orange, very few of us are green or above.

I understand what you're explaining, I think having an overview of the model will help you understand what I am pointing to.

The easiest tell is the size of the perpective/identity, stage red/orange very single-human self-concerned where as higher stages, green yellow, turquoise have concern for the environment, animals, all humanity. If you check out a brief overview of spiral dynamics you can see the scale of levels of consciousness. I'm not saying it's the only model but it is quite useful and it is a scientific model developed by Clare Graves.

There's a spectrum of course, but at high levels of consciousness selfish gains are not priority goals. The goals tend to be selfless, loving and holistic.

If the level of consciousness in the general population is high enough, trolling will be a behavior of the past, like human sacrifice.

Your interpretation is a spiral dynamics stage orange criticism of green and turquoise. The spiral dynamics model of psycho/social development is really good for analyzing and explaining these types of problems, like being able to predict human behavior and understand why certain humans behave the ways that they do.

We have to increase the general level of consciousness of the average citizen. High-consciousness individuals do not seek to troll, and see through the troll's bullshit and do not engage with it.

The wisest realize there are no others.

Wisdom is not for everyone.

Dice don't exist, until you take an object with dots on it and call it a die. The squares on a chess board don't mean anything until you project the rules of the game onto them. The ball is nothing until you project it's importance as a package to deliver to a particular place in reality that you are also projecting as the ball's destination, and projecting a "score" that this action increments.

These games exist nowhere but in ego consciousness.

The defining characteristic seems to be indulging in the mental projection of meaning onto the objects used for play.

Entheogens increase your consciousness. High consciousness gets us closer to the truth of what reality is, which allows us to break our self-deceptions.

It seems to express frustration at the difficulty of getting humans to come from selflessness when governing, and the bind that is created because of the inherently high stakes of politics. Coming from a place of selfishness in politics is the direction of "My group survives, 'their' group must be eradicated" and the mind has to make a distinction between what it considers part of its self-identity/group-identity, what what is 'the other'

The tendency toward ideological consistency seems itself driven by the tribalism tendencies of the ego-survival mechanism that assesses a self's fitness to be protected by the in-group they're expressing allegiance to / holding an identity/belief system of.

I think it doesn't take a realistic view of humans or the mind to try to draw a clean distinction between these two as if they are separate behaviors in a human ego.

This is how evolution works though, he described it himself. "There will be death, there will be some outcry, and [regulation will step in to move the evolution in the direction of absolute Good] ..."

He just recently explained this on Lex Fridman's podcast and JRE

Sleep mask, softer bed, hot water bottle to warm your feet or warm the bed before you get in, (or one of those electric blankets.

To join the minecraft server:

visit.uncensoredlibrary.com

That's how they prevent you from deleting the data, so they can keep it.

Not sure, pain seems more stressful than caffeine, but you'd have to test.

This this this! The problem with trying to teach or share this is that you have to transcend survival and face your death to become Love/God and devils will demonize you for speaking this Truth.

So you must go it alone, and realize that you are ultimately alone as The One.

I do all the treatments and drugs and recommendations, it doesn't change anything, but thanks for your concern.

It's hard for me to say as it's a box that I am inside of.

However, it is near impossible to even muster a desire or motive to stop procrastinating when there seems to be no value in anything I'm doing except distraction from the anguish of dragging myself through Life.

Likely it's a feedback loop, the start of which I am not clear on.

This is quite a good description of it.

I'm so tired of existing. I don't have a brain that's wired in such a way that I'll ever really create something worthwhile.

I am equally unlikely to ever find a partner who would want children with me.

Why even maintain this existence...?

> "Pain in mice triggered the release of adrenaline and cortisol, making their hearts beat faster and blood pressure rise, affecting the nervous system and causing acute stress. This process then sped up the depletion of stem cells that produced melanin in hair follicles."

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I think it says a lot about the current state of the world that someone from extremely rural 3rd world is literate and has access to hacker news...!

One of the most important aspects IMO is the attitude they take:

> "While we at Microsoft have worked hard to be 'carbon neutral' since 2012, our recent work has led us to conclude that this is an area where we’re far better served by humility than pride," wrote Smith in the blog. "And we believe this is true not only for ourselves, but for every business and organization on the planet."