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mkotowski··on Pronouncing non-English names for English speakers
Also, if we are talking about aspiration, word-initial p and t are also left un-aspirated in Polish, contrary to many (most?) English dialects.
mkotowski··on Pronouncing non-English names for English speakers
Wszystko and Lewandowski both are subjected to the same principle, namely: in Polish consonant clusters, including across a word boundary, the obstruents are all voiced or all voiceless.[1]

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_phonology#Voicing_and_d...

mkotowski··on Pronouncing non-English names for English speakers
To elaborate on ⟨ł⟩ – there is quite a good reason for the way it is spelled. Originally, its pronunciation was /ɫ/ (“dark l” in English) so it was very close to /l/ in sound quality.

It evolved to /w/ over time. During the first part of 20th century, it was already used only in dialects and by professionals such as actors and singers (because of it, it is also called “scenic ł” — „sceniczne ł”).

Ironically, if I remember correctly the original sound quality of ⟨v⟩ in Latin was also /w/, so in some roundabout way you could say that English and Polish both swapped traditional pronunciation of their letters.

⟨y⟩ is often transcribed as /ɨ/ but it is in practice closer to English schwa.

And to correct one thing: because of Polish orthography rules, ⟨w⟩ can also be pronounced:

• as /f/ if preceding consonants are voiceless as in the second w in Lewando__w__ski, although I think one would still be understood if that rule was ignored

• as /w/ if the word is an English loanword, as in „weekend” /wikɛnt/

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