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I lost my father early. Much earlier than you did. I am sure his death could have been avoided by different life decisions. I have also lost my friend. In the end the end is end and regret does not bring anybody back. Still feeling sad is humane. You probably need some time for mourning. To not forget but to accept the new reality without him.
Here is an perfect example, I quote: "In the 1844 smallpox epidemic, about one-third of the vaccinated contracted a mild form of smallpox, but roughly 8 percent of those vaccinated still died".
Does this show the efficacy of the vaccine or the lack of it?
You guess. Smallpox is known to kill 30% of the infected. This makes the vaccination of that time roughly 73% efficient against death. Well, not great but much much better than what is claimed here - i.e. nothing or worse. It is probably better because it does not account for avoided infections.
Does improvement of living conditions lower smallpox rate? Sure, if you have less people together, it definitely will. Better ventilation will too. Does it eliminate smallpox without any other intervention? Highly unlikely because it is highly infectious disease.
Did vaccination against it play major role in eradicating it? Definitely. How do we know this? Because we eradicated it regardless of living conditions of the billions of the people in poorer nations.
You still do not believe that this is a very cruel and stupid anti-vaxxer manipulation? Well, it talks about acquiring natural herd immunity against smallpox. Wait what? Is it possible? Sure, definitely! All you have to have is acceptance of 30% death rate and major life long deformations of others and willingness to not intervene.
Is this problem that this piece of garbage was written? No. The problem is that people are not educated about basics of epidemiology and do not understand how full of shit it is. This is what allows these lying bastards to survive.
Only this was a turning point for UK and Sweden because they managed to vaccinate relatively fast the people who really needed protection from vaccines.
If you want to learn from somebody, learn from Denmark.
Here is Our World in Data comparison between 3 countries https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...
Math is actually very simple. If you are not vaccinated and you are concerned about getting infected (as you should be) then stay the heck away from others. There is no way around this.
Society can't babysit adults indefinitely. Vaccines are available for everyone. Take it or leave it. Also Paxlovid is very potent antiviral against SARS-Cov-2 (at least on paper) so that is an alternative by now (not sure if available yet on NZ but it will come).
It may be though necessary to set limits on available care and triage base on vaccination status when these personal choices start to endanger health care for other people. It is hard and not welcomed choice but again, why should minority dictate life and death of others?
Yes, masks are new and I completely understand that wearing a mask in public is a nuisance. But that is all. There is no need to have complete mental meltdown because of it like too many people appear to have. It is all in heads. There is no need to stress about it. People in Japan have mask wearing custom for long time and they do just fine and we would also survive this. Eventually it will be over. Very likely soon because the cases are going down almost everywhere by now.
Not allowing you at all to somewhere or not after some time is a real restriction.
I think it is because there is then hope that some remedies are actually looked for.
One interesting finding shows that virus replication in various tissues was detected months after initial replication. Perhaps it is common for other viruses too and this could be one reason behind prolonged difficulties. Perhaps there is something else in play but with such attention, maybe something finally settles.
Is their intention to mess with statistics or what is the reason behind this sudden change not consistent with previous practice worldwide?