nullvoxpopuli

something else to keep in mind is that both the glimmer and ember benchmarks in that test are full framework-level apps. Not just the view layer. This is largely what impacts the startup time and memory usage.

fwiw, here is a small-medium sized app's bundle: https://emberclear.io/bundle.html (ignore the fact that ember is in that report twice, that's a problem with my analysis, and not the actual bundle)

Over the next year, the framework team is focusing _hard_ on reducing bundle size. Including: stripping deprecated features (which will be huge... at least 20kb (min+gzip), iirc)

Octane looks so much nicer. This is the lift codebases that have been using Ember for 6+ years will greatly appreciate.

And! It'll be great to show off ember at local meetups with the nice new syntax!