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Well done! If anyone wants to learn more:

http://hylang.org/

http://github.com/hylang

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulekCWvDFVI

and a quick 5 minute lightning talk:

http://youtu.be/1vui-LupKJI?t=16m13s

(Creator here)

Hack on!

(author here)

Thanks! Pairing the fonts took a little while, and fiddling with it took a bit of time - so thank you! :)

Yeah. The goal here isn't to stir the pot in the middle of a massive flame-war, but it's the sort of thing where I see a part of one of these viewpoints now and again.

The hope here is that this can be something that will be given out when someone expresses a viewpoint that starts to stir up this same-old flame again, as well as make people think a bit more seriously about issues regarding integration between language (and native) package managers (on both sides).

(author here)

D'aw, thanks so much. I really appreciate that. I identify as a OS-level hacker, and very focused on code, not design, so it means a lot to hear such kind words when I put a bit of effort into it.

Thank you!

In case anyone wants to learn more:

Repo:

    https://github.com/hylang/hy (star it, fork it)

Lightning Talk from PyCon:

    http://blog.pault.ag/day/2013/04/02

Hour long Boston Python talk:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulekCWvDFVI

  Slides:

    http://hy.slides.pault.ag/#/step-1

Docs (needs work, PRs welcome):

    http://docs.hylang.org/en/latest/

I'll have you know this will now become one of the official Hy mottos

This started out as a joke for PyCon / teaching folks how to use Python AST, and it's grown to be kinda useful for a few things -- Macros aren't there yet, and the language is immature / special-snowflake about some things, but it's generally saneish.

Since we do target Python AST we don't control the runtime (at all), since hy stored as a .pyc (or even use pdb to debug lisp in Python, wat) it's really (really) hard to build up a traditional lisp.

C'mon over and hack with us!

Totally. Hy will even auto-expand a lambda to a function if it's not sane Pythonically :)

We don't have control of the runtime - the runtime is actually just Python -- in fact, a generated Hy .pyc can run on a system without Hy installed on it - so keeping it compliant to anything would just be insane.

We're also taking from Python's work - working with MongoDB or using requests + clint to write a 2 minute API wrapper is like 5 lines of code in hy :)

That's right, I sure am :)

Hey there, hy author here - the issue is TCO requires (basically) a GOTO like command, the Python AST doesn't have this -- which is depressing, yes.

I'd love ideas on doing TCO, but I don't think it's easily doable with a traditional method of implementing TCO