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Who is the plaintiff then? I can't find it, and why would they then sue in the first place?

No, even worse, it means the EU has some sort of leverage on it or control over the company or entity.

> Your post read as if the normal Mint edition is directly based on Debian and therefore not affected by Ubuntu policies, which isn't the case.

Ok, good addition

Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu which is based on Debian. Also, Linux Mint offers a "Debian Edition": https://linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

I would say the four best Linux distros for Programmers (not for servers but personal use / business use) in no particular order:

- Linux Mint (which is based off Debian)

- Debian

- Fedora

- Gentoo

Thoughts? Ubuntu since a while would no longer make this list (in my opinion).

Can you explain how better? A link to an example maybe

> However, government attempts to spur business to invest in bad ideas distort existing markets, they lead to potentially productive investment being channeled into unproductive ends.

> Europe has incredible potential, considering its political stability, world-leading universities, and existing talent. But it cannot and should not throw centuries-old economic truths out of the window to conjure up a simulacrum of technological sovereignty. Superpower status will not come via death by a thousand grants or attempting to recreate Silicon Valley in Strasbourg. It will come from what markets do best: discipline, picking battles wisely, and allowing bad projects to fail.

Sounds about right here in Europe. At least they have something to show for it this time, I guess? I mean, assuming they created the quantum computer with the EU funds.

Totally insanity.

Well, the idea of spending more, is working more, which the latter is reflected by GDP.

If the government spends more, it should cause more work, which should lead to higher GDP.

This is one simple way to look at it.

If the government is spending more, but GDP isn't growing by the same, it might be a sign that the governments expenditures are wasted.

Now, I'm not saying that's happened, but it could be. Government spending is historically the most likely to be wasteful, in comparison to individual/retail/business spending.

Just do it yourself man, it's not that hard. Use your past ones as an example. I've been doing mine for 7 years (I live in Germany)

The EU governments (Germany, France, etc.) has become so extremely authoritative, that this truly might be true.

No it doesn't. What it definitely could mean with democrats in power is the USA becoming just as insane as Europe thinking the big corporations are the "bad guys" and we have to "drill" them.

It's a Western problem, not a Europe problem. It's more so in Europe but this contagion that big corporations are evil and governments are good is growing more and more in the US too.

No, you're completely ignoring the facts that @refurb is stating. The US govt is also extremely inefficient, true, but taxes in the US are far less than in Europe, on average.

That's based on our life habits, not on health care. That's crazy talk.

The point is that you can't draw conclusions of quality of health care simply based of one statistic. There so many other reasons to cause difference in life expectancy.

> The US left expectancy has also been going down even after the worse of Covid while the EU is returning to a slow upward trend.

This is complete meaningless non-sense. You can't draw trends from this. And it's not relevant to the discussion anyways!

> It’s also that if you lose you’re job you immediately have to think about where you are going to get your healthcare from and changing a lot of paperwork or even providers.

You think you have lots of paperwork in the US?? Come to Europe man.

Exactly, very well answered. UK might be higher now that they recently (this year) raised their corporate tax rate by 7%!

And certainly this doesn't include the inflation tax either. Governments spend like crazy. No wonder we're not living sustainably! It starts from the top down! That's not corporations, it's the governments!

> And if you think America doctors are not rushed and often misdiagnose stuff then you’ve probably not been to an American medical facility in quite some time.

Oh, trust me, I'm sure they are, but it's even worse in Europe.

> And yet European health outcomes are significantly better than American ones across the board.

What on earth are you basing this off of?

It's a minor difference (3 years), there are a lot of other reasons that can contribute to difference in life expectancy than health care. Europe is very much, you know, don't do anything, sit at a home all days. Americans are more likely to live their life and get out - which comes with obvious danger, but at least Americans might experience life!

Yeah, but at least you can get quality health care in America. That hardly exists in Europe. Free "health" care to shit doesn't do much good.

I have hard to seeing why you think you're worthy of incurring unending health cares expenses on a human health care system that by nature is not unending. If we are human and therefore our system can only by provide limited health care, then consequently you either go bankrupt at some point or you don't get health care. America chooses the former, EU chooses the latter.

Germany has property tax.

Total disagree. See my comment up above (1). Health care is horrible in the EU. At least in America you can choose to go bankrupt in exchange for quality health care treatment. In the EU, if you ever even get Doctor time, it's always rushed, and very often misdiagnosed. This is coming from an American living in Germany.

(1) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37809938.

EU health care is horrible - absolutely horrendous. It's very difficult for a young, working individual to get quality health care in a reasonable time - actually, almost impossible. I would definitely rather take the US health care situation over EU health care. Doctors are muchmore competant in the US, and they are much more likely to go out of their way to help you. One reason surely because EU doctors are unbelievably overwhelmed, working in health care in the EU must be really really horrible.

In my opinion, if the EU social benefits are even a little bit better than in the US, it's definitely because of other factors, not at all because of health care.

Taxes are far higher in Europe than in America. The additional "Social" benefits in my opinion are trivial in comparison with the differences in taxes.

Progressive income taxes increase at a far higher rate in Europe. Plus Europe has other forms of taxes: far higher sales taxes (VAT), corporate taxes, and other forms of taxes like buying-property tax (Grunderwerbsteuer).

Of course, the system is abused, business costs are used for selfish human purposes by the controllers, but this is a super super minor issue in the global scheme of business. The advantages of taxes businesses have to outweigh the costs, and the costs of taxes business are the following:

1) create unbelievably complex laws to tax here and there and what's allowed, what is exempt, etc etc etc.

2) For all the complex laws, we need:

  A) politicians who can understand so that they can be changes
  B) Judges who can judges by them
  C) Auditors who can make audit businesses following them
  D) Business executives who specialize only in finding ways around them
  E) Accounts and Tax advisors who also need to learn them
  F) Business employees that comply with them (save every receipt, so the costs can approved!)
  G) Software developers who can write unbelievable complex software for those unbelievably complex laws (i.e. Accounting software, IRS software, etc.)
  H) All the IRS agents who have to do the back office paperwork

And of course all of ^ those have enormous costs. Biden for example wants to spend $60 billion to build IRS tax software. $60 billion. six zero - billion.

3) And finally #3 which you're not going to believe: we take the money from good business, most businesses are good businesses, and we give it the corrupt politicians who piss it down the shithole. Wonderful!!!!! All the work just to transfer the money to someone to spend it even it worse!!!

I'm not talking about big tech, I'm talking about all businesses/corporations (except for obvious sex/drug/alcohol businesses). Businesses and corporations are always predetermined with a purpose, that purpose is always and unequivocally (barring extremely unusual businesses) to provide some sort of service or product to society. That by definition is an unselfish entity. A corporation is not even a human being, so it cannot be selfish; only when money has been extracted for a business can it become selfish.

Humans, on the other hand, have selfish purposes: I want to become rich, I want to own fast cars, I want to travel the world, I want to eat good food. Businesses build services and products to earn a profit based on creating value for society. Businesses should not be taxed, only when money is extracted to individually should it be taxed!!

I don't think I'm being aggressive. I think you should be less presumptuous.

It's hard to imagine that his data is so important, that he's so wanted, that people care about his so much, that GDPR will make any difference whatsoever on his life. On the contrary, the world is burning, clock is ticking, and you're complaining about me being aggressive on HN?

It's definitely not the status quo. But you know, the world is in a shitty position (war, climate crisis, ecological disasters, etc), so maybe the status quo is to be blamed after all and look - that we do need change.

> Are you saying that you liked how Facebook and Google could cross-site track every single (logged-in or not) European and use that for targeted ads as well as share it with the NSA?

Yeah, a couple small good things in GDPR doesn't outweigh the bad and damage. Not even close.

You're crazy. Meanwhile our economies are literally beginning to shrink, our enemies are becoming stronger than us then going to war against us (Russia, Azerbaijan, Serbia, China, North Korea) and the world is on fire. But I am so happy your data is safe - like anyone gives a shit about you anyways.