I still get very anxious at the idea of people relying on llms though. It just works out more often than we think.
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I still get very anxious at the idea of people relying on llms though. It just works out more often than we think.
Of course in a perfect world we all trust each other and have open borders, but that's a privilege we have to work for. I'm European and enjoy the open borders, but also am well aware that such a situation is not a given.
Cannot mean loss of personal rights, sure. Showing up at a border and being required to give up personal rights isn't ok.
But many people in this thread are writing as if they actually believe they have a right to go anywhere, and that simply isn't the case. It's the kind of thing you need live in a strong passport country to believe.
Discord communities I am in for programming are similar. People show up and within a few days either ask for a job or suggest cooperation. Sure, you could argue these Discord people may actually be out of a job (in this economy, very likely), but the volume and similarity of the messages say otherwise. You can also tell people show up in... _weird places_ to ask for jobs. An example being the Discord community for a not-really-used Python library with ~0 actual activity - either this person is very bad at finding good places to jobhunt or some attacker is just crawling a list of Discord communities and attacking them all.
It's a shame but there are a _lot_ of attacks that abuse our trust in each other nowadays. A good reminder to, like mom and dad said, never trust strangers on the internet
This outcome seems to be the best possible for Anthropic. Over 100B$ have been invested in AI so far, venture capital can afford to pay a few billions per big company as a South Park style "Sorry".
Or am I missing something?
I guess they still have it nice compared to the US, but is that a Norway thing or a US thing? I bet other countries are similar to us.
For reference, in Norway, you basically have 3 camps:
* Age verification is a detriment to democracy if implemented at a large scale as a requirement to speak in public. Well documented (activists and subject matter experts generally agree on this)
* We will solve the problem of kids online and we will solve it now. The solution must be age verification. Experts loud protest, and even committee findings that warn against are completely ignored (usually people who want a quick and easy solution, politicians who want the bragging rights of having saved the kids)
* We want to solve the problem, but the only obvious solution is age verification so I guess it can't be helped (not really educated on the topic. Just like most of us when it comes to a random political question. Not really a matter of intelligence)
Absolute circus.
I think most people here used the internet as a kid to learn about things and talk to adults in the field there were interested in. For today's kids this happens mostly on the few big sites like twitter and discord.
I'm more than happy to sacrifice endless scroll and recommendation algorithms (at least the type that is thrown at you without consent) to not have to verify my age to speak online.
I can't say we are much closer to that goal now :)
Starlink is just a re-skin of the "Wireless optic" thing a lot of ISPs are pushing because they would prefer not having to lay cables and instead have everyone use 5g routers. Of course, the service isn't comparable, but regular people don't necessarily know it. Fiberoptic is still king, and probably will be for a long time.
There's nothing comparable to direct fiberoptic cable, and anyone who says otherwise immediately outs themselves as being a sellout or having anti-consumer motives. In 100 years it may be different, but I'm probably not going to be around in 100 years, so...
You can point out that something isn't a good look and not be a pearl-clutching culture warrior, although for people who feel strongly for/against it certainly doesn't feel this way. The marijuana culture in general is in my experience generally perceived as tacky and I personally know many who use but want nothing to do with the culture itself because it's a bunch of people whose humor essentially equates "weed = funny" in the same way kids equate "poo = funny". As usual it's a loud majority making the rest look bad, of course, and not a general rule about how marijuana users behave.
It is well known that similar people get along and stick together, and if you manage a community you will know that whatever you put on a pedestal decides what kind of new people are attracted, and what kind of people stay. If you want to build something community driven, this is something you will need to manage. Sure, you can put this kind of stuff on the home page, but your home page tells new users what the community looks like.
As an example you are probably familiar with, Reddit solved this using subreddits and the front page - the content shown to new users is almost by definition the most popular and agreeable content that most people like, which is good for adoption. I think we would both agree reddit would seem a lot less attractive if to new users if the user is shown a random selection of new posts from all across the site. Instead, it is the users responsibility to find niches that may fit them better than the average opinion. Most subreddits are out of sight for those who don't care/don't want to interact with it.
If you want to show off your product and want adoption, would you rather nobody tell you and suffer from a lot of people turning away with no idea why? Or would you prefer people point out possible issues? It doesn't mean you have to agree, but data is important, and I think anyone with any community work experience could tell you the exact things I have written.
It could even incentivize actors to consider other options, like selling access to download the files themselves
This isn't "the market working as intended", this is an exhaustion fight to the bottom where the one with most money gets to stay in the market. As with most venture capital startups. I believe this VC tactic is a well documented "cheat code" to bypass market forces and build a monopoly. I find it hard to compare that with a free market.
However, I don't really mind China "stealing" from Anthropic. For us consumers we are getting the cake and eating it too. I.e we are getting rapid improvement to the tune of over a hundred billion dollars in funding, yet the market remains big enough that there's a chance of it not ending up as a monopoly in 20 years. And venture capital are footing the bill. A part of their investment is practically being redirected to fund Chinese AI development. It lets us live out our lives as happy CAC farmers[1].
So I would argue its not as much of a "cheaper solution" as it is intentionally and maliciously abusing another company's product to extract more value than the billing plans intend (given an average user), and further subsidizing the product by selling this data to competitors. But I don't necessarily think its a bad thing for us end-users. Nor for the market. But it is bad for Anthropic and its investors.
I wish there were better ways of defeating scalpers.
I do believe it is possible Anthropic are legitimately trying to start political discourse, but if they are they are either sacrificing themselves on purpose or shooting themselves in the foot. Others in the comments here are pointing out that there are many incentives for them to get into politics. Maybe they see possible outcomes worth the short term problems.
If it is just marketing and FUD, it's worth considering that a good lie is usually based in truth.
Let's say Anthropic were a "hippie organisation willing to sacrifice revenue for morals" (or pick your own, I'm just giving an example). Could they play the politics game better?
Chinese companies were quick to jump in and fill that unfulfilled demand. I work with robots and have never seen a Boston machine irl. Tonnes of Chinese though
It's a shame, but it probably says more about Datatilsynet's capacity. Frankly it would be great if you could simply say "this company did something dodgy", provide proof, and immediately get results. But that's not the world we live in.
Even if you believe AI-native startup is the future (the comments are divided), you would at least want to hear from an impartial source.
This is just marketing material.