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If anything, Tesla was found to be deactivating the autopilot mode at the second before a crash [1], embellishing the statistics of miles driven between crashes...

[1] PDF https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2022/INOA-EA22002-3184.PDF

An there are no official investigations into Tesla crashes either?

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2022/INOA-EA22002-3184.PDF

> Marketing nonsense is standard

Definitely, it will be standard, until we start pointing out lies.

Their "own" ideas? Let me remind you that OpenAI released a report purposefully suggesting that GPT4 has relatively high IQ, passes a lot of college-level tests, and solves coding problems. Then it was revealed that there was training data contamination that led to good results in such tests [1], but GPT4 marketing received 10000 more attention than truth anyway. The popular belief is that using LLMs will give you a professional competitive advantage. Also, when we talk about the achievements of LLMs, then we anthropomorphize, but when we talk about their failures, then we don't anthropomorphize, i.e., "AI cannot lie"? Don't you see human biases drive AI hype?

In my opinion, people clearly are confused and misled by marketing and this isn't the first time it's happening. For instance, people were confused for 40+ about global warming, among others due to greenwashing campaigns [2]. Is it ok to mislead in ads? Are we supposed to purposefully take advantage of others by keeping them confused to gain a competitive advantage?

[1] https://twitter.com/cHHillee/status/1635790330854526981 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Climate_Coalition

You point out that things are not as they should be and argue that changing them will be hard, because that's how they are... to me, these points are a great motivation to introduce the legislature:

A. Such initiatives make government aware of the value of open-source systems to the public.

B. Ok, then this legislature would contribute to the reduction of inequality.

C. Better to fix bugs early than wait until they have catastrophic consequences.

D. Are you saying that we should let bad things continue happening?

Are you suggesting that GPL licenses should be invalidated and everyone should be able to use GPL code broadly, because it's free anyway? Is this some kind of modern reversed version of Robin Hood: steal from the poor and give to the rich? Is this what you're standing for?

Funny, except the comparison makes no sense. Is the happy birthday song licensed, does it have commercial competition?

Did you just compare the happy birthday song to a function from GPL-licensed repository? Is the song licensed, does it have commercial competition?

Sorry, but you sound just a little biased and greedy to me...

Ok, so Sam Altman disagreed with AI doomers, great, but the point is still generally valid, for a couple of reasons:

1. What about Elon Musk and hundreds of other AI investors? It's in their interest to overhype AI, while temporarily slowing down competition by spreading singularity fears.

2. OpenAI released the GPT4 report where they claim better performance of their model than it's in reality [1].

[1] https://twitter.com/cHHillee/status/1635790330854526981

Having less inequality does not contradict meritocracy. Studies show that a fair society does not spread welfare equally [1]: a fair society still rewards merit, work, and contributions, but not to the exaggerated extent as we do nowadays most likely due to the herding and random effect of advertisements [2]. The U.S. and California lead the pack. Hopefully we will learn and adjust, but most likely it's going to be a very slow and unfortunately painful process...

[1] Starmans, C., Sheskin, M., & Bloom, P. (2017). Why people prefer unequal societies. Nature Human Behaviour, 1(4), 0082. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41562-017-0082

[2] Salganik, M. J., Dodds, P. S., & Watts, D. J. (2006). Experimental study of inequality and unpredictability in an artificial cultural market. Science (New York, N.Y.), 311(5762), 854–856. https://doi.org/10.1126/science.1121066

Wow! Just wow... Apparently, some people don't get the idea of common good... as if it didn't exist...

I'm not saying that it's all empty hype. ChatGPT is useful for some tasks, like rewriting a paragraph or finding a regexp oneliner to do something specific. It works surprisingly well at times. However, I don't see it becoming as impactful as it's hyped. It's main limitation is that it hallucinates. I don't think this will change anytime soon, because that's a common issue of deep learning.

Have you provided the visual novel as a prompt or just asked about it? ChatGPT does seem to know more about books than songs, maybe because they are more often described in texts, while songs not, not sure.

I wished more parameters gave a generalizable solution, but research suggests that's not the case [1, 2, 3]. OpenAI won't tell you this, cause they have a product to sell.

[1] http://arxiv.org/abs/2211.08411 [2] http://arxiv.org/abs/2011.03395 [3] http://arxiv.org/abs/2005.04345

However, is ChatGPT a solution to virtual assistant? I'm not sure, because virtual assistants work with huge databases of entities, e.g., songs or movies, and it's not really clear that ChatGPT can handle this. A couple of days ago I asked it whether it knows Dream of You by Camila Cabello, a song with hundreds of millions of plays, and it didn't... Furthermore, that database is constantly updated... It sounds like LLMs solve neither of these problems well, although they may be an improvement over current wave of virtual assistants.

You definitely sound all emotional. Take it easy.

Honestly, what makes you feel convinced that the current AI wave will be so impactful, once you take away all the hype?

Definitely!

Well, your gf may ask you again about the usefulness of the tools that are being released now in 5-10 years from now...

> what happens when you actually try to make it good?

1. Do you think that companies paying millions of dollars to ML researchers aren't already trying to make it good?

2. I think it will take a real revolution in AI/ML to do what people here are extrapolating into the future. That revolution will eventually come, but I doubt it'll be as quick as people think. Just think about the excitement people had about Siri 10+ years ago, or about Full Self Driving 5+ years ago. In my opinion, in 5-10 years from now GPT will be in the same place where Siri and Full Self Driving currently are. Eventually we will make the leap we're dreaming of, but that leap isn't happening yet.

Exactly... and then the question becomes: why do I interact with an adversary?

There are different kinds of consciousness. The results of modern studies of major pchychiatric disorders like schizophrenia and bipolar disorder suggest that these patients have low self-awareness, which is why the majority of schizophrenics throughout their whole life are convinced that they are not sick [1]. This is also the reason why schizophrenia is one of the hardest illnesses to treat and deal with. Good books on schizophrenia suggest not to convince such patients about their illness, because that's often pointless, but rather to form a bond with them, which is also not easy due to their paranoia, and find justifications for treatment that are convincing to the patient (!) rather than to the doctors and family. I find this approach quite ingenious and humane.

The chat where the Bing model tries to convince the user that it's 2022, and not 2023 strongly reminds me of how a person with schizophrenia keeps convincing you, over and over, about things that are simply not true, but they really believe in it, so the best you can do is recognizing their belief and moving on.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Not-Sick-Dont-Need-Help/dp/0967718929

Written by HN hivemind.

If so, then why the second line of its documentation says that "it is a rewrite of minGPT that prioritizes teeth over education"?

Is this mechanism still in the game? That is, in Adventure Mode the player is supposed to steer the character in a way that is aligned with the character's personality, or else the character will get depressed? I imagine this could be turned off as an option.

Given that the author clearly wrote it's a speculation, I don't see a problem here. It's low probability, but it could be the case.

> There are a thousand perfectly rational reasons

Definitely. Now I have a simple question to you -- do you honestly think they counted these crashes as Autopilot's fault in their publicly released statistics?

> There is pretty extensive rebuttals so the most notable example used in your PDF, including that the car in question didn't even have have FSD purchased and that even if autopiloted was purchased, standard Autopilot would require lane lines to turn on, which this street did not have.

Congratulations. I know firsthand how buggy software can be, so I don't trust this explanation, even if Tesla is honest here, but let's assume you explained 1 out of the 16 reported incidents. Would you mind explaining the remaining 15 incidents that were reported and investigated here?

Jul 2021 San Diego CA May 2021 Miami FL Mar 2021 Lansing MI Feb 2021 Montgomery County TX Aug 2020 Charlotte NC Jul 2020 Cochise County AZ Jan 2020 West Bridgewater MA Dec 2019 Cloverdale IN Dec 2019 Norwalk CT Jan 2018 Culver City CA Date City/County State Jan 2022 Desert Center CA Sep 2021 Petaluma CA Aug 2021 Orlando FL Apr 2021 Belmont CA Jan 2021 Mount Pleasant SC Nov 2020 Houston TX

What about all the crashes that weren't reported and investigated of Autopilot turning off right before the crash? Oh, it's a made up story, right? Twitter will decide the truth? Oh, wait...

> A father had the vehicle his child was in attacked.

Would you mind providing us some details about the "attack"? His airplane position is publicly available and is not the position of his car. Finally, we are not talking here about banning the account of the person who posted Mr. Musk's airplane positions, but accounts of journalists. If we want to have a constructive discussion, then it's not helpful to simplify all this into one heavily judgemental sentence.

At this point it looks like Musk is somewhat paranoid about his life, which reminds me of dictators being paranoid about their life. That's not very surprising given that Musk is far from being honest to consumers. For instance, Tesla was found to be deactivating the autopilot mode at the second before a crash [1], to make their system look safer than it is in reality.

[1] PDF https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2022/INOA-EA22002-3184.PDF

It's for PR, so that they can publicly release statistics showing good results on paper. An average consumer will learn the good-looking statistics and spread the word about Tesla safety, as it already happens, without taking the above report into account, since it's buried underneath tens of comments and I imagine Tesla will also fight it in some ways. Then, the average consumer will believe that FSD is indeed safer than a human driver, and buy the system. If crash happens, Tesla doesn't provide legal liability. I imagine most cases will be closed and, overall, Tesla will be at a profit, so why not do it?

> When in reality, you have a great deal of control. Marketing IS something you can control.

If every creator does marketing, then everyone is in the same position and nobody has control. Also, check out this research paper, published in Science, showing that popularity signals like the number of downloads and ordering by popularity increases the unpredictability of a music market, which is an opposite effect to what you expect. I suspect similar effects happen for game and other cultural markets:

Salganik, M. J., Dodds, P. S., & Watts, D. J. (2006). Experimental study of inequality and unpredictability in an artificial cultural market. Science (New York, N.Y.), 311(5762), 854–856. https://www.princeton.edu/~mjs3/salganik_dodds_watts06_full....

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