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Not sure why you're being downvoted for something that is very possibly going to happen. People hate hearing crony capitalist reality on HN and trust too much in large corporations that are solely there for profit to shareholders and will do so at any cost.

Look at the dongle nonsense Apple has pulled on customers for profit. Look at their genius bar overcharing and lying to people about their broken devices (see: Louis Rossman https://youtu.be/o2_SZ4tfLns).

Are you sure EU already isn't being run by fascists? Sure seems like most of the world is slipping into Fascism right now, and I wouldn't doubt for a second that the internet censorship proposal in OP is to censor left wing ideaologies that would bring prosperous conditions to the working class and poor of the EU.

Keep in mind that during the rise of Hitler, the USA never did the things to Fascists and Nazi's that they did to leftists during the Red Scare & McCarthyism. Having workers rights and socialized health care is a big threat to the ruling class.

The bourgeois elite are very very scared of people like Jeremy Corbyn, but fascists will certainly keep those borgeois safe, rich, and profiting off of war against brown people and homeless people.

>A person who believes that there is a hierarchy of personhood — that some people are more human than others, and some fall below the threshold of being people entirely — and furthermore, that that hierarchy should be institutionalized, is a fascist. A movement composed of such people is a fascist movement. A government managing such a project is a fascist government. (The natural moral logic of such a hierarchy is that violence must be done to the weak by the strong, since they are not human beings at all, but parasites and predators.)

Is this not what the world elite are doing right now? UN Special Rapporteur this week came out with new reports of rampant poverty in USA and UK. What the US & EU allies did to the middle east? Does none of this qualify as fascism?

I think by the time the world wakes up to the fact that they're currently living in at least some form of fascism or close to it, it will be too late.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/nov/05/un-rapporte...

Edit: Care to comment with reasons why you're downvoting and even flagging? I'm always open to changing my mind.

>Acts that you do can be powerful and dangerous therefore your acts should be within the law.

Absolutely not. A lot of the law is written by the bourgeois elite who don't want the staus quo they benefit enormously from to be shaken up. Change is done outside of the law and the majority populace if decided necessary has every right to break those laws in the circumstance that those bourgeois elite will not help them out or give them the change they want.

Like asking for a permit for a protest after your government & police force has been oppressing you for decades or centuries. You don't ask for a permit to protest anything serious.

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There have been reports of Supernova's (SN 1006) @ a visual magnitude of -7.5 during the day which might be visible by human eyes, however this was a very long time ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SN_1006

If this is true, will there have been any major rise of Bitcoin that hasn't been caused by illegal & unethical manipulation? Serious question.

Still up thousands of percent since 1783.

The price of other crypto's reliant on GPU's will also fall with the price of Bitcoin, likely making them unprofitable.

GPU prices are fairly cheap right now to be honest. I just picked up a GTX 1060 6GB for $139.

Some exchanges allow this.

Capital is not required for innovation. See Open Source, Cuba's CimaVax, the Soviet space program.

And now that research is available to society as a whole to benefit them in an open and likely now cheap way.

Some already super rich people and companies lost money, but so what? I'm sure they'll be able to put food on their families tables until the heat death of the universe.

>They are stealing results of very long and expensive R&D, commonly know as Intellectual Property, or "IP". Producing this locally would require a sufficient mass of experience talent and lots of time and money. It might not even be possible to catch up.

Can you tell me how stealing these results is actually a negative to society? Is it just a negative to already extremely wealthy individuals? I'm finding no negative here and nobody is really giving me anything other than capital.

There is no merit. It's for capital only. Almost everything should be public domain.

What real negative effect does the OP article have on society? None, it's actually likely beneficial, just again not for the already super wealthy.

What are they stealing? Ideas? Thoughts?

So?

This is just rich people whining about someone else being able to make their products much cheaper. The whole world benefits from this, just not already super rich patent & trademark holders who are anti-competitive & hurt consumers.

Can anyone even tell me a negative that isn't just capital?

I know a lot of people in Engineering jobs at Facebook, Valve, Amazon, Google with no degrees who dropped out of College in their first year. The stigma that you need paid education is gone from at least tech jobs, which judging by your mention of Silicon Valley those may be what you're talking about.

Nothing would change. There's only one party in this country, the Property, War, & Corporate Party.

Cynthia Nixon was also a thorn in Cuomo's side during the primaries, and much further left.

>Also yes, Genocide is terrible. But the amount of people that cigarettes kill every year is orders of magnitudes more than this.

Many people are dead, the number comparisons don't really matter. They're both evil, that's really it.

How about electing a fascist dictator that wants to genocide the left in his country, and deforest the rainforest by opening it to western companies?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/18/brazil-jair-bo...

You've just described most advertising, ever.

What about the much more dangerous domestic misinformation/disinformation campaigns? The ones that make you go buy a 12 pack of Coke you don't need that's going to effect your health. What about things like COINTELPRO? What about the beauty product ad telling me I'm ugly and need mascara?

We should make Manufacturing Consent and The People's History of The United States mandatory reading for high school students, but that would probably change too many minds against our own system as kids would know how things really work, and how history really happened instead of the wishy-washy 'everything wasn't that bad!' crap they teach in grade school.

>For Stamos to suggest more people need to think for themselves, that more need to question authority more, sounds naive, at best. That is the last thing the powers that be will allow. They're fine with misinformation, they just want to sure it's their's and no one elses.

Exactly. The powers want censorship, the powers want to narrow the overton window and create a society that can't think for itself. It is not beneficial for them to have a society that actually knows what's going on.

Why am I able to find information I can trust easily, verifiable among many different non-mainstream sources that are nearly always accurate?

The most important thing is to get off Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, Snapchat, etc, find some independent news sites you like, and be very skeptical.

Why is everything a Russian bot? That conspiracy needs to end. The American media lies to you constantly (Manufacturing Consent, Chomsky), politicians lie to you constantly, advertising lies to you constantly. This isn't one big Russian scheme, it's simply capital.

Was this Russia?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/2003/02/06/i...

What is Facebook's exact policy for removing legitimate accounts with real American citizens behind them just posting political memes and organizing?

Exactly. This is government censorship, they're just using the facade of Facebook to do it. COINTELPRO is a good read, the FBI is untrustworthy and works against American interests when it comes to foreign and domestic politics and political organizing (please notice the specifics of this, I am not saying FBI is untrustworthy in all aspects).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Sowing discord is how change happens. Why are we blaming this ALL on Russia to seemingly keep a status quo intact? The whole Russian thing seems like a propaganda campaign by the FBI to keep people hooked on the status quo, that anything outside of the norm is obviously Vladimir Putin's doings.

Martin Luther King Jr sowed discord and divided society in beneficial and positive ways. Take a look at the Poor People's Campaign. How could civil rights have taken place if they didn't change people's minds?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

How is this different than this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18439175

It's government instructing Facebook to remove pages. This only provides a few examples, and someone else in this very thread said they took down legit pages of legitimate people they know and follow, presumably also at the FBI's request. Is this not government censorship?

Does the FBI get to start taking down legitimate left wing organizing as they've done in the past with cointelpro?

Exactly. These are enormous private governments at this point and should be treated like government.

They partnered with the Atlantic Council which is essentially a board the most evil capitalistic & imperialistic motherfuckers from past US government to decide what to censor. It's essentially state censorship and it's worrying to me.