hacker news community, what is your goal here?
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hacker news community, what is your goal here?
the "community" on hacker news has said limor (ladyada) fried is not a "real engineer" or she has help and doesn't really do engineering, or she is not a real person, or she is just a marketer, or it's not really her code, amongst other attacks anytime her work appears here on hacker news.
the same attacks on hacker news on naomi wu have been said to other women who make things, share their projects, and are online, including limor, on hacker news.
before you hit "add comment" - what is the goal here hacker news community?
https://blog.adafruit.com/2017/08/02/arduino-federico-musto-...
we covered makerbot going closed-source on adafruit, including the class action lawsuit. https://blog.adafruit.com/?main_page=blog&s=makerbot additionally, we covered the close-sourcing of the arduino.org products (federico's arduino) - https://blog.adafruit.com/?s=%23freearduino
and just to be super-duper clear, my opinion is that it was a mistake for makerbot to go closed source the way they did.
here's another you may enjoy from my article "Why the Arduino Won and Why It’s Here to Stay"
“Arduino: baby-talk programming for pothead” – ArnoldB, AVRfreaks.net http://makezine.com/2011/02/10/why-the-arduino-won-and-why-i...
disclosure, i work at the open-source hardware company, adafruit and we make arduinos for arduino.cc !
with all your potential to teach and share your vast electronics knowledge, why stick around in finance? there isn't enough people willing to dedicate their time helping. snarky-commenting on hackernews does not change things - actual work does. write some articles, posting tutorials and ship cool kits - join in!
Version 0.2 updates (new!) • Truncated image - only 2.6G now to fit on any 4G card • raspi-config notice retained on boot • Removed persistant wlan0 entry • Password-change reminder on login • Added RTC and lm-sensors kernel module • Included kernel modules for: DS1307, AD626 I2C digipots, HMC6352, BMP085, ADS1015 • New! Adafruit's PWM/Servo kernel module for easy PWM/Servo control on GPIO#18
Version 0.1 updates (still included) • Updated to Hexxeh firmware • I2C and hardware SPI support • I2C/SPI modules initialized on boot • sshd on boot • ssh keygen on first boot • runs avahi daemon (Bonjour client) and is called raspberrypi.local • Realtek RTL8188CUS wifi support • One wire support on GPIO #4 when loaded
http://blog.makezine.com/2011/10/20/how-open-source-hardware...
tangibot's issue(s) were not about open source at all.
LEGO is very good about their trademark, if there was any issue with makerbot saying "same plastic used for LEGOs" they would have been told not to ever say that. if you're really interested to know for sure, email me and we'll both email LEGO.
if you could show makerbot's usage of LEGO with a specific link that would be helpful too.
please keep in mind the company that the creator of the tangibot promoted as his previous job and current group of experts he's working with did sue people for using the name "Cricut"..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricut#Third_party_software "Provo Craft has been active to resist the use of third-party software programs that could enable Cricut owners to cut out designs and to use the machine without depending on its proprietary cartridges.... Provo Craft also asserted that Craft Edge were violating its trademark in the word "Cricut" by saying that its software could work with Cricut machines. Provo Craft asserted that this was likely "to cause confusion, mistake or deception as to the source or origin of Defendant's goods or services, and [was] likely to falsely suggest a sponsorship, connection, license, or association of Defendant's goods and services with Provo Craft"
if anyone saw the tangibot anywhere they'd assume it was a makerbot... and lastly, i don't think tangibot could even get their name trademarked for what they're doing, but a lawyer could weigh in on that perhaps.
i'm not a makerbot owner, but i did back the tangibot.
i'm a backer of the tangibot, but you can't view the revisions.
it's not fair to say a tangibot is equal quality (yet).
lower prices are good, everyone agrees with that though!
keep in mind, this was before the tangibot creator updated the kickstarter and also was asked by kickstarter to make it clear it's not violating rule # of kickstarter:
"A project is not open-ended. Starting a business, for example, does not qualify as a project." (they also say "No "fund my life" projects.).
just to be clear, open-source hardware makers, at least every single one of them i know and work with don't have any issues with someone making their design and making it more low-cost.
if kickstarter had viewable revision changes i think this conversation would not be about people saying open-source doesn't want to be open-source.
everyone who does open-source knows a copy of your design/code is going to happen, and it's encouraged.
1) the tangibot kickstarter when launched used the makerbot name dozens and dozens of times and said specifically it was the same quality because it was clone. you can say it's like-something, but not lean that hard on someone's trademarked name and brand for a $500k kickstarter. open-source hardware is great, copy it! just don't use someone's trademarked name as a way to assure quality and support. at least ship or show something and prove you're comparable.
2) the tangibot kickstarter at first said it was to fund a business, that's against rule #1 of kickstarter: http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines
rule #1 on kickstarter: "A project is not open-ended. Starting a business, for example, does not qualify as a project." (they also say "No "fund my life" projects.).
tangibot has since completely changed the kickstarter and it's $500k better than it was when it was launched.
if kickstarter had viewable revision changes that would be helpful right about now.
enjoy...
(left column) of all the things we use for our open-source hardware business.
we'd love to hear suggestions for more too..
http://leaflabs.com/devices/maple/
when chipKIT met with us before launch (adafruit, limor fried and myself) we said this wasn't the first one along with a lot of other things we wanted to see them address and change, they didn't.
to use microsoft's you'll need to wait until they allow commercial use (from what is reported that's later in the year, maybe even 2012).