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What is it you want out of using Linux as your phone? I don't understand.

Not sure what you're getting at. You said zero covid was never a goal anywhere. And the above poster showed you were wrong.

Monetization models are interesting. In most amateur's case it seems to start out as "for fun" and then flip to "for money". Instead it's simply a gradient of incentives, whether acknowledged or not.

As cryptocurrencies and other models increasingly securitize everything, I wonder what will happen to the "amateur" market. As viewers we get so much free benefit from the hard work of amateurs.

Well said, most interesting thing in this thread. "Show HN" when you get there!

Agreed! Similarly, the best outcome for the ConstitutionDAO was likely for them to bid but not win. Can you imagine the complexity of actually owning it. High odds it would have ended up intentionally destroyed somehow.

Indeed, it's all about incentives. He said during the keynote that his goal is to get the word out and change locks for the better. So far he's seen more incentive to get views than making money on the channel.

This will not always be the case. Given his goals, the channel will change as his priorities shift. When he reaches his goal "everyone is aware that locks suck", his next goal is "change locks for the better". This will involve designing and selling locks and pointing viewers towards better locks in a commercial way.

Care to explain? The idea of a bunch of people pooling their money to buy an NBA team seems pretty practical to me. Is it the media/popularity aspect that makes you think of the end of a bubble? ie if they were buying something more mundane like a small plot of real estate would that be less hype-y?

Damn this post is solid. Even if I don't really get it, I can tell you do.

My takeaway is that what makes DAO LLC unique is that it allows for "algorithmic management".

I'm familiar with LLC management, where there are owners, wondering what advantage the algorithmic aspect adds. I'll go read up on CityDAO. Congrats on the upcoming project)!

I would love to see the same content / angle of this article re-written. I think it could be condensed to a few paragraphs perhaps, for those who already understand Proof of Work. I found myself getting stuck in the analogies (infinite lottery tickets) and not being able to make progress. But I'm interested in the pros/cons of PoW vs PoS if you have recommendations.

You seem to have mapped out pretty clear logic here. What's important to you about refuting this as a possibility?

I'm pro-cryptocurrencies, but I also don't really get what's so amazing about DAOs. Are there any references or explanations from people who love them?

Here's a piece by Vitalik I found compelling: https://vitalik.ca/general/2021/08/16/voting3.html

Sounds like you know what you're talking about. What do you think of this idea of a DAO from a legal perspective? Are there any DAO models in particular you find attractive?

If it's not a security, what is it? A lottery ticket? I've ready your subsequent posts in this thread, I'm curious what you're trying to get at here.

Ya agreed, understand it's not your title. Seems like NPR is grouping it under "those krazy krypto kids" so it's all the same.

Since the title doesn't make this clear -- this is not ConstitutionDAO. It's a new DAO called Krause House.

1999: Bill Gates publishes his book "Business @ the Speed of Thought"

2000: Microsoft ordered to breakup by US Dept of Justice

2021: Bill Gates publishes book "How to Avoid Climate Disaster"

Late 2021: Divorce, affairs, and Epstein

One key question when opening any book: "Why did the author write this? Why now?"

> Is the metaverse they mention in the article the same metaverse that Zuckerberg talks about? My understanding is yes, the term has been in use for awhile and now is being further broadcast by Facebook. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaverse

> Also, how is this different than any other digital asset? Don't some online games rely on "whales" to be profitable? How is this different than selling items or whatever in those games?

What makes these digital assets different is ownership is all on a public blockchain, commonly referred to as an "NFT". Unlike buying a special upgrade in a regular game, this special upgrade is provably of limited quantity.

See NFTs on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-fungible_token

It's totally fine if they don't those are just examples. And "you decide" was the wrong term. Your curiosity itself takes the wheel, you're along for the ride really. Instead of bitcoin maybe your curiosity will choose sock design, cooking, or collecting leaves. Just know that eventually curiosity will come. And yeah, burnout is real, good stuff written about it.

Get curious find something you're actually interested in. The Airtable people, bless them, were probably really curious about organizing data. But that's not you, ok.....in 50 years, what will be obvious in retrospect but you're curious about today? Crypto, VR, biotech, Siri, satellites, cars, solar panels, something else? You decide!

What are the economics like on prepared drinks? Seems like transporting a bunch of water around is wasteful and expensive. I guess the revenues are so much greater than costs it doesn't matter - but here we have them shrinking the portion size.

Related to this, I wonder how the average age of HN readership has changed over time.

My guess is it has shifted towards an older audience continually since the beginning. To that end what new things are "against the order of things" today.

edit: less techy than myself

This definition seems myopic - yes to old/dead white men but excludes women and asians.

Yeah I advocate for others less than myself. I believe everyone should someday have an open source smartphone option. Pinephone is on the right path, but not there yet. Go PinePhone!

I'm a causal user looking for a Linux phone. I want a non-proprietary OS and I want to support open source. I'm willing to give up a lot to get that. But Pinephone isn't quite there yet. I know it will be someday!

Agree with the other respondents here. I love the PinePhone project and want them to succeed long term. That said, recommending it to causal users as a daily driver before it's ready causes more harm than good.

Thanks! I had not realized bitcoinmagazine could be a good source. I had grouped it in with other crypto media junk like cointelgraph.

I tried out a PinePhone recently. While I applaud the progress being made by the devs, PinePhone is still a ways out from being a daily driver.

For those looking for a Linux phone, is Purism the only (close to) usable option?

[Oh shoot, did you edit your parent reply later on? Wondering if my above reply was meant for another message.]

Re: "DAOs with currency is just feudalism redone" - I like the way you put this. There does seem to be this kind of land grab where giving ownership somehow changes everything.

Re: Self-hosted currencies in small communities - this one I'm less curious about so am wondering what you see in it. Would the 15,000 cryptocurrencies in existence today start to meet this criteria of different currencies across many different communities?

Re: Cryptocurrency with a built in decay rate - also interesting to think about. Kind of like having a digital tomato or something, it must be used before it molds. I've heard Dogecoin has a high issuance rate, I wonder if that would apply. My sense is it's hard to disconnect from everything else though, and if I had a bunch of rotting tomatoes I would convert them to something more stable (tomato sauce, or trade them for money) unless I had immediate utility for tomatoes.

Re: your above point about nocoiners having more of a disconnected view, agreed. Curious what you think of my comment here on this, speculating that as more of the world becomes a financial instrument, it gets harder and harder to be a nocoiner. In that case we must figure out how to be curious while having/talking our book: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29297148

Like I said, would love to find a place for more discussions like this with you, more distance than the "to the moon", but less technical than an https://ethresear.ch.

HN is a place for curiosity. I'm genuinely interested to hear svennek's perspective, it's coming through in a bunch of fragments throughout this post.