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I'm the real programmer.

"If you take this therapy, you will be paying me a grand a week for the next 80,000 years. Sign here"

Not many other professions can just up and leave and without a doubt land a job pretty much anywhere you like.

Hell I can go anywhere in EU and probably land a job, a freedom many don't have.

I firmly believe we're just a hologram, an experiment, with only one defined condition in our environment, death. Our overlords have watched us evolve and under the condition of death, and once we solve it, we will have won.

Where should I go? I have all the money in the world and I'm looking to settle elsewhere besides North America.

Suggestions?

OP: I like the way you rant.

Most of the men I know and have talked to specifically about fighting for pay, have in fact put up a fight for their pay, while the women I worked with believed that their work will pay for itself and have no fought for a higher pay raise. The women that are top tier managers, were actually just as vicious as the guys, and by being this way, have attained the same things.

People are so quick to hop on to the social justice brigade when in reality its a much more complicated and personal issue, being lumped into the gender category.

From personal experience, a little anecdote:

When I was first hired as a junior developer, I was offered 40k. Me, along with a few women, and a few junior guys.

Now, is it sexism that:

a) I demanded hire pay and was in pay negotiation for 2 months before I was bumped to 60 because I made a compelling case, a long with a few of the guys?

b) That the women who were offered the same position signed off immediately on the agreement?

There is no "we pay women less for the same job" mantra anywhere that matters, and if there is, please point to a concrete example.

It's not my fault that I'm willing to risk a little and fight for higher pay and potential unemployment for doing so.

By not paying extra attention to females?

Buddy, I'm here to get a job done, if my applicant is a woman and she is good, I will hire her. Move on with your bullshit.

Check your sensitivity. That's how I feel from my own experience dealing with women. A lot of them feel that they are being crushed by men with no real world example, it's a large modern bandwagon. Modern day pseudo-feminism, that is.

The percentage of women applying for pure CS related jobs (not business jobs, but specifically tech) is very little.

It's not my problem that a small part of the resumes I get are women. It's not sexism. It's just statistics.

I work a majority of women actually, they out number us very very hard.

I've yet to find a substantial argument for the men against women in tech movement. Did someone yell into your face "get out of my office you fucking WHORE", or is there some VC that subscribes purely to "I ONLY EVER HIRE MEN". Is there some CEO that raped his co workers?

All I'm seeing is a few nancies getting offended at:

a) they didn't get hired likely because they were not good enough, not because they are women

b) women that feel they are entitled to get offended at any little off putting remark/joke/jab.

Downvote me, I really don't care.

I still don't get the movement. Everyone knows Computer Science exists. It's just not an interesting or attractive field for everyone. Let's be honest, when you have prospective high school grads you can't make CS more interesting than say, Physics, Bio, Chemistry. A majority of women flock to those fields and humanities. It's not sexism, it's not the patriarchy, it's just statistics.

It just seems like a lot of women just aren't interested in CS, and I get that. It's a fascinating field, but I can totally see why it's not populated with women.

Anyways, all I'm trying to say is when it comes down to it, and I see a good female candidate, I will hire her. I really don't care about the gender, just I get way fewer females candidates. It is what it is.

Why not host more women friendly CS/Info tech workshops to spread interest?

These kinds of blog posts are just hot wind without any real foundation. Affirmative action isn't the way to go about it, spreading interest in the field at an early stage, however, is.

Example: CS classes in high school don't hold a candle to the sciences and are very very poorly taught for the most part. Other sciences are exciting, they out number CS classes like 20 to 1.

Why?

3. ‘Not discouraging’ women isn’t enough - actively encourage them.

Again, why?

I don't understand this "get women in X" movement. There are women everywhere, women are doing fine from what I can see in the tech space.

Why must I go out of my way to specifically pave a way for women in everything I do?

Why not blacks? Why not midgets? Why not "X deviation from being a while male?"

Read my previous comment history for my stance as I'm not going to copy paste everything here. I honestly don't get it. You have all the same opportunities men do, at least in this space.

Women are so entitled nowadays.

Absolutely incredible.

Why waste your time trying to culture someone who isn't? A switch won't magically flip in their minds?

Why even waste time on random nerds you don't even know? Just play your game, mute them, and have fun.

Hell yeah I'm all for being nice to everyone.

Ignore it, tell them to fuck off, and move on. It's a fairly simple concept really. You are WEAK if some randoms comments in an online video game get you this rattled.

I really think people are just bored man. In an age where I can watch videos of the Earth set from the moon, what the hell is there really to get excited about?

It's depressing. My grandmothers entire goal in life was to dip her toes in the ocean, something that brought (I can't even imagine) an unreal amount of happiness to her, and she finally experienced this at the age of 70.

We have everything. If you want something, you have to keep your head down, put in the work, and you'll get it. That's it! We don't suffer from 99.99% of the problems that have plagued our species since it's dawn.

The entitlement to perfection is sickening.

No, it's not ME who should decide how I feel, it's YOU that should censor what YOU say, for ME!

Avoid, tell them to fuck off if need be, and continue. It's not a very difficult concept.

The only reason you ever have to get up in arms is of consequences stemming directly from the sexism. Then there's an actual problem.

> but not everyone has the same fortitude.

That's too bad. Sink or swim. Everyone is much too hyper sensitive from growing up in such a protected and privileged culture.

People often forget that in the end, it's you vs them, crying about it on your blog and writing to newspapers and starting all these silly little groups and protests does not do shit.

Keep your head down, play the game, and when/if you come into a position of power, deal the cards you've been holding on to. That is how society works, and that is how everyone who ever came into a position of power has played the game, men and women alike. In fact my boss is a short fat black woman and I work in the investment sector.

If my mom and coworkers made it, so can you, and if you can't, then that is your problem and something you need to work actively to change, not society.

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The reality is people ARE going to have different opinions, good and bad. People WILL make sexist jokes. People will berate you for your gender, just because they can. People will do all sorts of shit. You have to accept that no matter what someones stance is, whether it's wrong in your mind, it is still their right.

It is entirely up to you how to choose to react to it.

My Mother knows her self worth. Sexist comments and remarks don't do anything to her, because she doesn't let others determine who she is or how she feels. If someone calls me a "faggot", why would I get mad? I'm not a "faggot", so how can this persons words possibly shape me into one?

It just helps her differentiate the people she wants to associate with, and the idiots she doesn't want to associate with.

When you grow up in SHIT, you tend to get lost in meaningless details like insults from people that don't matter to you. When you are fending for your life every single day against criminals, rapists, murders, and starvation for the first 20 years of your life, meaningless bullshit like "the white male patriarchy" tends to get lost on you. Insults and ill treatment excite us because it adds fuel to our fire, you now have a weapon to use against somebody. When we get insulted, we don't get upset, we collect it, and use it against them because ultimately it's meaningless and it's THEIR problem, not mine.

My Mom got to where she was by being great at her job and being a very thick skinned and clever social engineer. The assholes were left behind. She could have dwelled, but she didn't. She could have cried all day and night about some off hand remark that probably wasn't even intentionally sexist in nature, but she didn't, and neither should you.

We don't believe in modern pseudo-feminism, sorry.

I work with loads of women from third world countries that worked their asses off for their entire early lives just to afford themselves the CHANCE of making it by coming to a first world country with $0. If they don't get off, where do you get off?

Check your privilege.

Thanks for the non-response.

You state these things like they are trivial. What do you have to put up with as a woman?

Everyone has their fair share of shit to deal with, it's unfair to place priority on a cause due to gender.

What about all the shit guys have to deal with? Where are our support programs, where are our campaigns?

For example: one of the things I'm struggling with is finding a girlfriend simply because I do not own a car, and yes I have been rejected on this because "although you're a great guy, if you can't drive me everywhere, I'll find someone lesser who can". Why is it that I have to initiate every relationship? Why do I have to play the "prove yourself" game?

Let's not blow things out of proportion. Name calling is just that, name calling. Ignore it and move on, you need to develop a thick skin.

Women have it great really great in this world. Yes there are things you can't change such as being physically weaker and symptoms of that (rape), but the entitlement I see from women is insane.