This is a great point, it's not in the job description of a police officer to punish criminals. But if you see the types of language that police officers frequently post with on social media, you see them framing themselves as warriors in a battle of good and evil.
Cops shouldn't see suspects as evil they the cops themselves are at war with. Formally their job is to keep the peace, get the suspect into the justice system and allow the justice system to work. Instead cops view themselves as armed enforcers on the side of "good" that the cops themselves define ad hoc.
I believe the more accurate thing to say is that many of us got so fed up with rote memorization that we devalued all types of memorization. There are good and bad methods of memorization, experiential memorization is definitely better than rote if you can create the circumstances for it. But some of us just wrote off memorization being valuable period.
This is another good point, some things you can’t get around memorizing. I also grew up in an environment where I learned to loath rote memorization. But some things are impossible without a bunch of memorization work. I tried DJing for a bit and it’s just a fact the better you have songs memorized and lots of them the better you’ll be at it. The best DJs I’ve met have a memory of at least the structure of thousands of tracks.
I disagree with this. You can just google syntax so I don’t bother memorizing syntax. Specific syntax is never going to be the thing I remember that puts all the pieces together. Remembering how things are done and having a good conceptual memory on the other hand is extremely valuable. You can’t google the long story your colleague told you about the incredibly hard to identify bug (well maybe if they have a blog, but you see what I’m getting at?). That stuff is worth remembering, the stuff you can’t just google. Or the vague notion of what to google to solve the problem. You need both good memory and a good sense of what’s worth remembering and what you can just look up.
Too bad we live in the kind of world where the biggest hearing aid manufacturer will read this, raise additional capital, buy the patent & rights to the $1 hearing aid and then sell hearing aids for $5,000 each they'll bill to medicare and big health insurance co.
I definitely was speaking about “the group of people who believe free speech is under attack” and “the group of people who feel like they shouldn’t have to be polite to others” but I understand how that can be misinterpreted.
Can you explain to me the personal attack because I’m not seeing it. And I’ve been a commenting member of this community for about a decade so I believe I have something of an understanding of HN.
Who are these people that have been punished for speech? It seems to me more a boogeyman of “if I say X, people will not like it” which is normal, sometimes people find some ideas repugnant, than a real scare.
And yes I am using a relatively broad definition of powerful, I’m not talking Bezos etc in the 0.01%, I’m talking more upper middle class and up mostly white men. Who maybe are not correctly defined as the powerful but they are traditionally the people protected by law & USA cultural norms (which isn’t power in the traditional sense of political power or wealth but means quite a bit in one’s day-to-day life).
And one more time to say the original counter argument of mine again, if there was free speech explain to me COINTELPRO.
It’s not whataboutism because the fact that the value of free speech was only granted to a privileged few addresses your argument that the USA once valued free speech and things have changed. If free speech was only granted to a privileged few why should we ever think of it as some societal value that was lost? It appears to me that the privileged few that saw themselves in the demographic gifted free speech are the the people who are angry their speech is criticized. We all still have free speech by the definition of the constitution but now there are decentralized public means to criticize the powerful. And there is popular sentiment supporting that criticism.
You clearly have a narrow view of the history of the United States because before the 1960's a black person could be murdered by a mob for saying the wrong thing to a white person. And those mob murderers would not be prosecuted. You call that a philosophical protection of free speech inshrined within the culture?
Also, you ever hear of anyone in America being punished for saying they're a communist or homosexual? Or is that fiction to you as well?
To any degree free speech was a thing, it was most often selectively afforded to white men. And now it is that same group who coincidentally seems to complain the loudest that they no longer can say exactly what they wish without consequences.
If I said “little childish voice in the back of your head who craves to be rude without cause” instead of “anger issue” would that make you feel better?
He did say something, he said that it bothers him to have to shape the way he speaks to other people so that they are not offended. And what exactly is weird about that? Sounds like life to me. And that he misunderstands free speech which is about the government not being able to imprison you or legally punish you for speech.
There have never been laws against hurting people's feelings. And no one is advocating for laws against hurting people's feelings. We're telling you, if you act like an asshole other people might not like it and that's fair. And that you can get fired for being an asshole. And that the law is merely that the government will not imprison you for being an asshole.
So just to be clear, it makes it hard for him to be polite because if he complains about doing a minimal amount of work to not be rude, I say something?
What's wrong with being kind and speaking to people with respect while you disagree with them?
One of the big problems with the "politically incorrect" or "radical free speech" crowd is that your words can hurt people's feeling. And your tone can hurt people's feelings. And there's no good reason to tell someone "fuck off" when you can politely say no other than maybe you have things you're angry about that you haven't dealt with well. And those things you're angry about are lingering around your subsconscious giving you a latent urge to tell someone to "fuck off." But other people shouldn't suffer because you haven't figured out how to deal with your anger issue.
The quality of posts at the top of HN has really tanked over the last 2-3 years. Falling from high quality to “programmer clickbait” like the OP here. It’s a little better if you use /classic as a path, which I understand is only calculated by upvotes from users from the first couple years of HN, before the startup boom. Occasionally /news and /classic are virtually identical making me wonder if there are a lack of active OG users and the algo falls back to default during a lack of classic participation.
This is the kind of post that suffers from lack of specific examples. I would love to see an interesting discussion of how hooks are not in line with most developers mental model of React and what problems it's causing (if that is indeed true, or at least true in the eyes of the author). But this post is far too generic to illuminate what the real problems are or convince me that there are any.
Is there a country where market based health insurance works? Specifically where it works without there also being a strong public health insurance option. For instance in Germany you are required to be insured and as a young healthy person you can save money by choosing a private option. But eventually as you get older your insurance costs will go up. So most people choose and are extremely happy with the public option TK.
A private health insurance marketplace seems like the type of industry ripe to take advantage of consumers. And what if the health insurers in the market conspire to fix prices? The government or a class action suit could fight against it but that's the type of corrupt business practice at large that could take over a decade to correct.
You can get a ton done in Typescript or Python or Ruby. And in addition to type systems being developed to assure type safety in the most dynamic of languages, you also can write tests and draw on the community knowledge of countless programmers who know your language. Obviously if performance & certain performance first libraries are first priority for you, choose a very computationally efficient lang. But it’s a toothless argument in 2020 to say when following best practices you are inevitably going to write flawed, incorrect code because you’re starting in a dynamic language.
It's funny that Rachel lists these libraries as the dependencies she's willing to use after demeaning developers that use a lot of dependencies in their work. It just feels like she's completely out of touch with what the job responsibilities are at a startup. Or what it's like to code every day in an interpreted high level language like Javascript or Ruby or Python. Of course you're going to use dependencies in Javascript because you're not going to make a syscall to libcurl to make a web request. If you seriously expect libcurl to be the level of dependency that is acceptable in your code of course you are doing a different job than I am. But please do not demean my work as "VendorOps" [0] because I have to focus on the business logic of the domain problem my company works on.
Yea exactly, she seems to have reached a level of comfort with her technical proficiency and years of experience that she's not even seeing how this kind of talk can be discouraging to a junior who doesn't have the depth of knowledge she has.
It depends? Certainly for some companies but I wouldn't be the right fit if you need a highly specialized infrastructure person at Netflix or AWS or something. Sometimes it can feel like I'm only a good fit at startups which isn't great for earnings potential.
Companies being honest about what a job will be like is so critical. I recently had a company tell me they wanted me to wear many hats, lead a team, talk directly with customers, respond to customer needs and build things I believe the customer wants/needs. When I actually started working it was months of doing very micro-managed pre-defined projects the founder/technical lead already had in the backlog. I brought up the discrepancy between the job I was promised and what the actual job was (straight execution in a feature factory that didn't even have decent text coverage!) and they told me they couldn't give me the responsibility they promised up front.
Now maybe you read that and think I hadn't earned the kind of responsibility I was asking for. But 1) I had it at other companies previously, bigger companies than the last job 2) again, it was the type of responsibility they teased in the hiring process. I ended up leaving after a few months for a role at a company that actually offered me a leadership role with autonomy.
Some of us even have jobs that are a mix of high and low level engineering and we have to have the good judgement to choose when to do one or the other.
It’s clear the author of the original post is taking an elitist stance on what it means to work as a coder and trying to brand the work of others as less important & give it a different job title. Essentially saying “a real
programmer does the job in this specific way I say a real
programmer does.” It’s not the kind of attitude that benefits anyone. It’s the kind of attitude that does push people out in an industry already with a reputation for pushing people out.
It helps to read her previous post on the topic to understand her point. She complained about being accused of focusing too much on problems of scale as an ex-Google/FB engineer. And she suggests her colleagues don’t have the engineering chops or desire to dig deeply into a problem the way she does. I don’t think the author understands her colleagues motivations. It may be the case that some of them are “vendorops” coders but I suspect it’s far more likely that at a company with resources like FB or Google, which is to say near infinite resources, you can dig into such problems regularly. At a smaller company such technical deep dives may be intellectually gratifying for the coder but may not be worth the limited resources of the people who pay you. And you literally need to grab some off the shelf libraries and code on the company’s domain problem to save time & money.
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