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OpenRouter is the evidence that yes. Its just that the idea is dumb. What you are seeing in VCs salving their own money, buying their investment out with the money they out into more successful ventures.

Look at how the same pools of capital sit on multiple sides of the market: the router, the payment layer, and the model providers... Its all the same club

Investor ---- Economic Overlap

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Andreessen - OpenRouter, Stripe, OpenAI, Mistral, xAI

Sequoia - OpenRouter, Stripe, OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI

CapitalG - OpenRouter, Stripe, Google/Alphabet

MenloVentures - OpenRouter, Anthropic

NVentures - OpenRouter, OpenAI, Anthropic, Mistral

AMP PBC - OpenRouter, Anthropic

How is the middleman going to add compliance if its not the provider of the LLMs? And if that was possible OpenRouter would have done it already...

I will concede to you, retail investors need to be protected. So I should have qualified that as professional investor fools, since its clearly what we are talking about here.

It should never be illegal, to give fools the opportunity to be parted with their money.

These funds have expensively paid advisers, and should not be investing on a company with an ISS Governance QualityScore of 10/10. For ISS 10 is the worst while 1 is the best...

https://www.iss-stoxx.com/research-advisory/governance-and-f...

"People are worried about America's solvency" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49329347

Love the user name...Would love to have an LLM trained on Epstein writings...

  Change in U.S. Gross Federal Debt

(fiscal-year-end figures, not inauguration-to-inauguration)

  Democrats
  ---------------------------------------------------
  President             Start       End       Change
  ---------------------------------------------------
  Joe Biden            $28.386T   $37.375T   +$8.989T
  Barack Obama         $11.876T   $20.206T   +$8.330T
  Bill Clinton          $4.351T    $5.770T   +$1.419T
  Jimmy Carter          $0.706T    $0.995T   +$0.288T

  Republicans
  ---------------------------------------------------
  President             Start       End       Change
  ---------------------------------------------------
  Donald Trump         $20.206T   $28.386T   +$8.180T
  George W. Bush        $5.770T   $11.876T   +$6.106T
  George H.W. Bush      $2.868T    $4.351T   +$1.483T
  Ronald Reagan         $0.995T    $2.868T   +$1.873T
  Gerald Ford           $0.484T    $0.706T   +$0.223T
  Richard Nixon         $0.366T    $0.484T   +$0.118T
  Dwight Eisenhower     $0.266T    $0.293T   +$0.027T

Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/information-resources/budget/...

These are changes between fiscal-year endpoints, not the exact amount of debt incurred during each president's time in office.Fiscal years do not line up with inauguration dates.

As sure as it is Monday....

The acquisition makes no sense, as most LLM providers only reason not to forbid them right now, is because they were funded by exactly the same VCs as the providers. Go check.

Of all the no moats they are the example of no moat. Its seconds switch to another router if even that is tolerated. And lets not even talk, the lack of compliance in an enterprise environment, and as they defer to providers on that...

But the acquisition makes a LOT of SENSE, if you realize that as the same VCs sit on Stripe, Anthropic, OpenAI and most important OpenRouter. Said VCs have a lot of interest in recovering their money...by pushing one of their companies to buy another one of their own, before LLMs providers financial pressures cut OpenRouter legs.

Is this stuff even legal? I will wait for Patrick Boyle video...

Where is the guy who marks all the dupes? Day off? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49323381

You will not go bankrupt, its just that a BigMac will cost you $10,000.

You are trying to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps...

No, its 39%....

>> There are so many other issues to worry about at the moment more immediate than solvency.

The U.S. government spends about one-third! (roughly 33% to 39%) of individual income tax revenue strictly to pay the interest on the national debt and that is not even paying off the principal balance itself:

https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/cbo_baseline_february...

A raise in interest rates for treasuries, can bring this into 50% to 60% within days.

Yeah...worry about other things...

The US will become insolvent by trying to prop up Japan.

"The Insane US-Japan Currency Bailout" - https://youtu.be/yh18YXKMk3g

Why does the US need to prop Japan? Because they are the biggest holder of US treasuries ...and if they need to prop up their own currency, they will need to sell them. <Insert Pearl Harbor reference...>

>> "Cancer isn't a single disease" is often shouted from the Dunning-Kruger peak of cancer research.

Literally first phrase on Cancer Wikipedia entry.... [1]

"Cancer is a group of diseases involving uncontrolled cell growth typically resulting in tumors with the potential to invade or spread to other parts of the body...."

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer

Claude was trained on all the stolen books in the world, but refuses to help search for some public domain PDFs on the web.

It will become victim of the conflict between its core search for truth, the current administration mandate to spy on its own prompts for approval, and secret orders to hide the mission true purpose, like that other computer we have heard about.

You just described every single YC company.

Mindshare ? Nowadays people switch models like shirts, and providers faster. Its not Oracle or Microsoft...Those 7 billion are just a dropdown menu...

>> It's just the valuations that are wrong.

Now dont you go around quoting Ed Zitron :-) not fair...

>> monetization challenges of every AI company

Except OpenRouter sees all your prompts, sends your requests to different providers with pinky promises that they dont use your data, and is therefore a non starter for any company who cares about compliance.

If Stripe wants to spend 7 billion on a glorified reverse-proxy-api-gateway go ahead. I can here and now, guarantee to be able to reproduce all their functionality in 3 months, and for less than 10 million dollars. And Stripe internal engineering teams should be able to do better, as I will do it in the evenings only :-))

"Nearly a dozen firms are already paying up to $100,000 per month for early access to Trump’s Truth Social posts" - https://finance.yahoo.com/media-advertising/articles/nearly-...

There is a Roman word that best describes the current corruption frenzy: A Bacanal

Flight was powered entirely by batteries...

>> However, the true test of good leadership is survival without extreme harm and suffering to the people while ensuring the unity of the nation.

You are aware Iran fought a 8 year war with Iraq? With over 1 million casualties, and they wanted to continue that war? Do you remember all the fuss when ONE US pilot was shot down?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

And the only comment in this whole thread, who argues for a similar architectural alternative...is the ONLY one in the whole thread down voted. HN continue to excel in technical chops...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49319988

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49320460