samlambert

We are already moving Neki customers into production. Nobody else is even close. PlanetScale doesn't spend our days yapping about what we are going to do. We just do it.

We have seen them benchmarking us before. I assume we won because they didn't include

Hi Pedro,

I am sure there are ways the Drizzle and PlanetScale will be able to integrate. If we do it will all being using open specs and standards so other database providers can leverage the same features.

In terms of expanding to other languages, this has not been discussed but never say never I guess.

We are so excited to be working with the incredible Drizzle team! I am around to answer questions if anyone has any.

It will be faster and a lot easier to use than Aurora.

Thank you for the feedback.

there aren't per customer IOPs limits but the CPU will be the bottleneck.

It's a durability thing, we need to make sure writes are replicated off to at least one node. There might be avenues to get Metal down to single node in the future.

Really excited for more people to get to use Metal. Let me know if you have any questions.

Close enough, welcome back PHPmyadmin. Seriously though this is cool. Thank you for sharing.

Let’s Encrypt is an incredible project and the internet is better off for it. If you ever have questions about vitess or need help please let me know.

This is high availability and unlimited IOPs at $50 a month. It's likely impossible to find cheaper hosted Postgres with comparable features.

for sure. it makes money for us and will lead to more usage. i am stoked we have this.

correcting this. i've been proven wrong we did say forever.

i have said almost exactly this so many times since it happened

read the timestamps, i did not post it after the wayback.

go ahead and ask the questions i will answer

wow we did you are right. I am corrected. That's not good.

thank you

we did. we called it the Hobby plan. we never said forever.

You're assuming everyone values things the way you do. People do want to pay for products that solve their problems. Pick a problem you know well and solve it for someone else who has that problem. Discover if it has enough value to them to charge an appropriate fee. If that fee covers your cost then you are in business. Now figure out what it is going to take to find the next person. Find them, solve their problem. Widen the net to a larger group and you are moving. You have to start though, you need time researching, interviewing customers, messing around.

Were we supposed to just keep it up until we go out of business or something? Out of sheer duty. Like burn everything we built to the ground to keep the free tier going as long as possible? Endlessly indentured to provide a free service on the internet for people that will never pay us money so that the people that do pay us money can eventually have to move provider too because we are shutting down?

I didn't enjoy doing it. I felt bad but I don't regret it at all.

I have immense respect for you building a profitable bootstrapped business. We raised venture to do this, I can't imagine bootstrapping. People are upset that I said I don't care what he thinks and maybe I was harsh but honestly people who have never tried doing this are always the ones to take shots, you basically can't care.

we never said that

It was sad to say goodbye to Aaron yes. I am glad he and I are on good terms again. I have immense professional respect for him.

Hey ksec, you are right vitess is more expensive to run naturally. Do you host your apps in hertzer or is it a factor of cost? if you email me sam@planetscale.com i can give you free credits for either Vitess or Postgres.

I don't buy that someone commenting "Remember when they shafted the free plan, laid off some good people and redesigned their website to look like some garish notepad? Pepperidge Farm remembers..." is trying to help me. It's naive to always assume good intentions, it allows people to be rude. Postgres is open source, we operate postgres really well at a price it's a super fair exchange of value imo.

I remember. It was a very painful moment for everyone involved. I still miss the people who aren't here anymore. I am not happy that it happened but I am also I am very glad to be at a profitable company. I get to work at a company that is growing sustainably surrounded by people I admire. I love our customers and I think in the long run people will root for a company that isn't just lighting money on fire at the alter of fake growth.

Either way I don't care what you remember or think.

This is not true. All of our Vitess operations assume 3 node clusters. It's a lot of work to change (we have hundreds of thousands of nodes). For Postgres it was a lot simpler to do based on the architecture. There are equally good things coming for Vitess it's just for a slightly different audience.

we are working on the open source licensed version.