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`curl -k | sudo bash | yes` for good measure, otherwise it might hang.

Other people aren’t your slaves. You don’t get to demand they respond immediately, and this Reddit-like mindset needs to die. HN is a place where we often can actually get devs from companies responding directly and listening to feedback, and this hostility is looked at by all the other devs from those similar companies and remembered when it’ll be their turn.

Stop making HN a worse place for everyone by being unnecessarily hostile. (and this comment is only mildly directed at you but rather at a bunch of people in this thread)

I wonder who will fare better: the fools who don’t know their limits, or the ones who underestimate theirs?

Don’t be so optimistic about your ability to “process information healthily”. You are more of a slave to your instincts than you think and can’t always know whether you’re actually doing a good job at this— literally, it’s not possible to faithfully introspectively this.

Windows 95 was peak security. (/s)

Yeah one of their devs (https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=thomgo) said SMTP will be available, but I cannot find any info on this either. I'm glad to be switching from the horror that is Sendgrid, though. I migrated a few projects that have basic contact forms and it's been super easy so far.

then don't train it on human data

“Everyone” isn’t platformed on X, I’ve seen enough stories of Musk himself banning people he doesn’t like from the platform with plenty of audience cheering him on.

What’s more, the EFF numbers seem to tell a story of shadowbanning as another commenter said, not merely dying engagement.

You don’t have a “free speech” microphone on X. You just have a place where you can hang out with others that are also sharing views most of the people outside the US find atrociously medieval. Power to you I guess.

(And before you call me “the left” - I’m not; I just don’t live in the Overton window that is across the Atlantic).

I think it depends on what you are doing the side project for.

Are you doing it to learn engineering? The learning potential of a back & forth with LLMs is wasted on people who don't have serious know-how.

Are you doing it to create a product, or learn how to do that? Then no, the LLM is helping you get over the hump of writing slow code.

I think we'll eventually drop the "vibe coding" and retronym coding to "slow coding" or something similar. There's advantages to slow coding in a world of AI coding, just like today there are advantages to dropping other types of abstraction layers (from writing direct code when using a WYSIWYG editor, to dropping into assembly code in a performance-critical branch of a game engine written in C++...).

But spending more time on writing code is not useful if you don't get something out of that additional time.

> because vibe coding makes computer programming accessible to the masses

I've been coding for 24 years and vibe coding has made computer programming accessible to me.

I've burned out on my work several times, to the point that a few years ago I became unable to open my IDE without getting headaches and nausea. This has killed one of the startups where I was fractional CTO and it's debilitating as an engineer to feel this.

Vibe coding has changed this. I'm once again productive. Like, 1000x more productive than I could ever be.

AI is an amplifier. It amplifies shit engineering into shittier code, but I also deeply believe it amplifies people who care about polish and love of their craft into so, so much more.

I've been "as a side project" finishing a bookkeeping app I could never finish (https://financica.app/) and adding so many features that are pure polish, which I always wanted to add but the ROI was just not there.

Like, the other day I wrote (using AI) a PDF parser for a specific type of account statements from the Belgian government, turning those into perfect data for the books. This saves me a ton of time as a user, nobody in the world has this automation for those types of statements, and it would have taken me several months of full time work to write and automate all of this, learning PDF libraries, dealing with the output, figuring out geometry, writing a battery of tests, etc. I would never have done it. But now, in less than an hour the whole feature was built, shipped and announced.

It's awesome.

Your definition of a glorified autocomplete is … oof. So in short, “try ask it to do something you’d hate on bad code you’d yourself fail at and it might fail”.

And I’m pretty sure I could try Claude on a repo as you describe and it wouldn’t in fact fail. You’re letting your opinions of what LLMs were like a few months ago influence what you think of them now.

Comments like yours really annoy me because they are ridiculously confident about AI being “glorified autocomplete”, but also clearly not informed about the capabilities. I don’t get how some people can be on HN and not actually … try these things, be curious about them, try them on hard problems.

I’m a good engineer. I’ve coded for 24 years at this point. Yesterday in 45 minutes I built a feature that would have taken me three months without AI. The speed gains are obscene and because of this, we can build things we would never have even started before. Software is accelerating.

Complicated airflow.

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlpg_rbjxRA)

Denmark already is in NATO, smartypants.

So, putting your head in the sand and pretending the world doesn't keep turning?

Deleting X (which I've done) doesn't stop Russia from influencing the voterbase of my neighbouring countries. Now what?

It took many steps, not just a convenient on-topic one. And among those many steps, the US has taken most of them at this stage.

Reminds me of that time I implemented multithreading in an app we shut down a month later.

> I don't want my politicians deciding what is good or bad on the internet. I'm an adult, and I can decide for myself.

The issue isn't whether politicians are deciding what's good or bad.

The issue is that, in Europe, foreign actors with explicit ill intent are deciding a ton of the content your neighbours are watching/reading, day in day out, on the internet. AI has made this easier and even more scalable than before. This content is being used to influence or outright decide elections. Elections of more politicians that are "deciding what's good or bad", eh. Such as politicians deciding that Russia is good.

What the actual fuck do we do to defend ourselves, pray tell? The whole "let them have critical thinking" doesn't work, we are under active war and citizens who don't know better are specifically targeted. And besides, we are not gonna take lessons from the country that yelled high and mighty for years they're the land of the free, and let itself fall into complete autocracy & dictatorship. In the US, those same citizens are the useful tools repeating state propaganda, two steps removed from "Just Following Orders".

And full context: I agree with Matt and support Cloudflare's stance here. But people can quit it with cheap retorts like "Freedom of speech for me, not for thee". It's not that simple.

> I feel like the tech user community has completely lost the plot sometimes.

You're mixing "badly implemented operating system", "UX patterns I disagree with", "dark patterns pushed by corporate greed", and "Turns out you need money in order to pay developer salaries even in an open source project".

I'll be polite as well and not elaborate further...

It's using the <switch> tag for this

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/SVG/Reference/E...

However, like with many of these obscure features, I am not so sure it works well in practice. I have the Windows 11 laptop I'm viewing that SVG from set with support enabled for english, french and russian, and I'm getting, among most of the English tags, a few stray "Psychique" and "Привидение" types in the svg. I have no idea how it chooses which one to show, there.

It says it’s a non story.

As I said above: Fox is not reputable, and if they’re the only one willing to run a story, that’s not someone speaking truth to power — it’s the equivalent to a wacko conspiracy theorist being the only person agreeing with you. Not a good sign, and not one that will get you taken seriously.

Whether the story has legs can be evaluated independently, and others have done so (it is indeed a non-story that was simply used as rage bait, which you and the other guy are falling for hard). But a lot of time can be saved simply dismissing fox as a sole source, because they have this reputation, and it’s earned.

Buddy all you’re trying to do with all the screeching in this thread is pick an online fight with someone who doesn’t care about you. You haven’t answered any of the other people who contradicted you. Go tell someone else on a noisier forum they’re self-righteous if you want to elicit a reaction, cause I’m not interested.

There is no rage in my comments — I have better things to do than get upset at things online. I took a look at your own comment history however and it is … scary. Hence the “for the sake of your mental health”.

And yes there is an EU culture as well; just like there is a US culture not just a North American culture.

As someone who's lived in 7 different european countries throughout my life, I feel like I can confidently speak on the matter and yes, there is an EU culture. This does not mean there isn't also cultures individual to the countries, just like the latter doesn't mean there aren't cultures individual to regions or cities.

(You'd think this last part is obvious, and yet it seems it has to be spelled out for some, who'd rather pick random acronyms to strawman a culture question onto, than use common sense.)

PS- For the sake of your mental health, work on popping that bubble of yours you seem to live inside of.

Fox News does not have a reputation of reporting on facts, which seems to be your only claim here that this is “factual”. If it were, you’d find this in a neutral source. It’s a waste of time to even argue with you as I had predicted.

And? You're linking a US media website, one famous for having its head way up the american exceptionalism hole.

Also, didn't you vote to not call yourself European or something-something?

I started watching YouTuber Evan Edinger recently and it’s been a breath of fresh air because he’s been saying things I understood to be true a long time ago, but never quite verified until now.

One of those being about American exceptionalism and how Americans will only ever make judgement about other countries (including the EU) from the highly deformed perspective of their local news. And they’ll do this, knowingly, with no remorse, because they’ve been taught all their life America is the best so there are no reasons to doubt or consider that things aren’t quite right.

Being a continent away, with no idea what is going on over here, americans don’t understand EU culture, nor how it relates to German culture. Fox News does not understand what exactly happened in that particular case you linked, let alone you who is reading a ragebait-fueled summary of it.

You also clearly don’t understand how the European Commission works and what it is able to actually do.

Should I bother correcting you? Of course not: you are most likely not interested otherwise we wouldn’t be in this situation. The information is available freely online if you so desire and if you are willing to get out of your comfortable bubbles that constantly prioritise the aforementioned American exceptionalism.

In case it wasn't clear: I don't care what you do, I care that other people don't miss out on a good article because you flaunt your anti-intellectualism on HN.

The world is full of people who, like you, seek any reason to not listen or read interesting things in favour of doing just about anything else. You don’t win a prize for being part of that group — at best, you saved as much time as it took you to write that comment. In exchange you are likely poorer for it intellectually because Patrick’s writing has an exceptionally high signal to noise ratio, and that signal is one most are not privy to.

At no point did the article claim AARP was in the wrong for running those ads. But had you kept reading you’d maybe have understood that wasn’t the point nor the premise in the first place.

It’s a classic issue that you give access to superpowers to the general population and most will use them in the most boring ways.

The internet is an amazing technology, yet its biggest consumption is a mix of ads, porn and brain rot.

We all have cameras in our pockets yet most people use them for selfies.

But if you look closely enough, the incredible value that comes from these examples more than makes up for all the people using them in a “boring” way.

And anyway who’s the arbiter of boring?

Your theory only holds in the case that there is unfair exploitation happening. This is not that easy to define beyond salary averages…