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The other thing this reminds me of is the book "Children of Memory", funnily enough I was listening to it when the chatgpt craze started, there's two characters that crack me up, two corvids, no spoilers, but they live in pairs and have access to quotes from earth bibliography and live in a distant future in an alien planet, one would quote things such as "my kingdom for a horse", and the other would reply "but you don't know what it means! what even is a horse... We lost that data to make space for something more relevant to our times" and they would hold this discussions about meaning, they really cracked me up and to me chatgpt is one of the corvids, I hope the other corvids arrive soon and we can get some popcorn at the level of nonesense feedbackless garbage discussions, sort of like that beautiful tale of the seven blind men that want to learn what an elephant is like, each touches a different parts of the elephant and hold discussions about how their contextual interaction is the one truth, one talks about the tail, another the husks, another the trump, another the leg and so on...
When I meant different biological machines I meant different humans, Joe, Homer, Steven, Lu, wasn't thinking of different species, that makes it even more difficult to think about!
We have our simulation of the world, with senses that evolved with the purpose of survival and under certain conditions however bizarre gave us the advantage to survive, our senses are flawed, we can't see reality, it would be difficult to wonder how a machine perceives reality when it doesn't have this faulty sensors, it's internal simulation of reality would be difficult for us to grasp, let alone that it lives one level inside the simulation.
The ego part I didn't meant, if I had to rephrase it, I would think about the impossibility of communication, how do we transfer a mental "image" without losing too much of its detail to another biological machine that has very similar but not equal processing stages, like, you my friend, I think the fact that we have this discussion is the first loop of the iteration where we abstract it to another function and ask "well, what if the receiver end doesn't have the capacity to hold discrete numbers, like, if its a child and hasn't learned certain concepts, how do you first teach them in order to give the answer" and so on and on and on... And this is just for Joe, when you talk to Homer you have to follow another approach because he thinks different, a bit slow sometimes too