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> And I doubt QAnon conspiracy theory is as simple as "Hillary Clinton operated a pedophile ring out of the basement of a pizza place".

> I don't know many details about QAnon, and I don't care much to research it and come to an understanding myself.

Cool.

> Isn't Jeffrey Epstein and "pedo island" considered to be part of QAnon?

No. They falsely took credit for bringing him down, when it was journalists in the "mainstream media" (specifically one reporter for the Miami Herald named Julie Brown) that broke the story and brought him down. To be clear, they had nothing to do with his downfall.

> I'm prone to consider "conspiracy theories" because something terrible happened to me that is adamantly denied by those in power.

You seem to be confusing "people in power abuse said power and never face consequences" (true) with Hilary Clinton operated a pedophile ring out of the basement of a pizza place" (not true).

Right, good example. The government doesn't properly clean the water they are paid to, and the media doesn't report on it, but instead of talking about that, Alex Jones says fluoride is poison.

Conspiracy theorists have plenty of actual material, but they seem to like to make shit up instead of seeking the truth of the matter.

I should qualify my statement by saying this rule is true for younger generations. Boomers use FB messenger as a primary communication tool, you're right.

Do you really believe every person has functional critical thinking capacity and won't be convinced by dangerous lies?

What a world that would be to live in.

No, but if only one side is actually debating and the other is just trolling for reactions, there's no possibility for "good" ideas to ever even meet bad ones, much less defeat them.

> 'Where we go one, we go all'

I never understood that as a moto. Right wingers are known for being hyper-individualistic, WWGOWGA seems like some quasi-socialist slogan.

But you are right, there are multiple crises of poverty, loneliness and poor education in the US. The thing that really baffles me are the "Q" followers that are none of these things, and aren't American.

Then they ignore evidence to believe what they want to, not what is most logical.

Internet or no, those people were always going to be misinformed. Because they choose to be.

Are you trying to argue that they are inhaling pollution at an extremely high rate by running downtown or do you just not like the fact that I pointed this out?

Right, that's my point. Then you aren't close.

If you were, you'd have his imessage / whatsapp. Facebook is a 3rd tier form of communication for a reason.

If the books are guides to killing people and the subversion of your community, then yes burn them.

If they are actually your friends, you have their phone numbers. If not, they aren't.

> It’s hard to see the path out of this dark forest.

Impossible really.

Media and government does lie to you, but not about fluoride in the water. They tell you your life is sustainable (when it's not) and they cannot do anything more to help (while helping the 1% without hesitation).

QAnon (like all conspiracies) start with a grain of truth, but it seems to also want to frame Donald Trump as a savior of a sick and broken system instead of its greatest and more literal manifestation.

> Look no further than the use of masks and hydroxychloroquine in the United States.

Masks work to help stop the spread and hydroxychloroquine has no evidence that it helps anyone who is sick.

There, was that so hard?

Exactly. QAnon is almost exclusively a "I am not happy with my life" support group.

Exactly. Every time I see someone jogging/running in the downtown part of the city, surrounded by idling cars, I shake my head.

Account creation is so damn outdated. With device fingerprinting you don't need an account to know who is who, and with algorithms pinpointing interests you don't have to ask anything about age / sex / etc. You can figure it all out in a few sessions.

> Inexperienced bicyclists have a very real chance of getting hit by a car.

I have 3 friends that were hit by cars last year, 2 bikes and one e-scooter.

None of them were at fault.

It will suck eventually, politics and boomers will arrive and ruin it.

This was the Stockholm office, but the foreigners (especially the English) absolutely had an impact haha.

All new "thought leaders" just repackage old Buddhist / Stoicism concepts.

Go on Joe Rogan, sell your book of old ideas with new marketing, cash in. Your average millennial would never buy a "self help" book, but Tim Ferriss or Ryan Holiday? Absolutely.

I have heard this exact statement from multiple Swedes. I have seen them goof off just like their American counterparts.

Yes that's probably why I don't watch news on TV

aren't lying