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Founding Partner, Fifty Years (http://fiftyyears.com/). Former founder now supporting founders making something civilization needs (climate, synthetic biology, food tech, health, etc).
Twitter: @sethbannon
I write at http://sethbannon.com
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1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4WKle-GQwk
2: https://www.amazon.com/Internet-My-Religion-Jim-Gilliam/dp/0...
1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4WKle-GQwk 2: https://www.amazon.com/Internet-My-Religion-Jim-Gilliam/dp/0...
While we haven't observed grammar in non-human animals yet, whether they can learn and use it is very much still an open question.
"considering the rather limited number of experiments and the difficulty to design experiments that unequivocally demonstrate more complex rule learning, the question of what animals are able to do remains open." [1]
"when we consider how animal vocalizations are analyzed, the types of stimuli and tasks that are used in artificial grammar learning experiments, the limited number of species examined, and the groups to which these belong, I argue that the currently available evidence is insufficient to arrive at firm conclusions concerning the limitations of animal grammatical abilities." [2]
1: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3367684/
2: https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13423-016-1091-9
Essentially, with this new deal, after equity financing YC will own 7% minus the dilution from the equity round minus dilution from any options pool increase [1]. Previously, after equity financing, YC would own 7% minus the dilution from the equity round minus the dilution from the SAFE round.
While it's true founders are getting a little bump on YC absorbing the dilution from a Series A option pool re-up, in my experience these are typically 5% to maximum 15% increases. Whereas the dilution from post-YC SAFE rounds are typically 15% to maximum 30%. So YC is assuming a potential 5-15% dilution in their ownership while avoiding a 15-30% dilution in their ownership. Translation: YC will own more post-equity financing than they would in the old deal.
This puts a burden on the founders to make up for that increased dilution by raising the post-YC SAFEs at a higher valuation than they otherwise would, which will likely make those raises harder. Alternatively, they can raise their Series A at a higher valuation than they otherwise would to make up for YC's extra ownership, but that will make those raises harder than they otherwise would be. So there is a real dilution downside for founders here.
1: in reality YC will continue to own 7% after the equity round because they'll exercise their pro-rata right during the equity round but that doesn't change the underlying point being made here so will ignore it for simplicity.
Still not clear on how (in most cases and assuming there is not a 0% option pool pre-equity round) this will not lead to increased expected dilution for founders from the YC deal as compared to the old deal, so would love to play around with your Excel sheet. My email is my HN username at gmail.
It's true that founders could compensate for this by raising SAFEs from other investors at a higher valuation, but that is likely to make those raises a little more difficult, so there is some downside.
Interestingly, unless I'm understanding this incorrectly, this change might mean a worse deal for founders going through YC. As the post mentions, when calculating the dilution taken from a post-money SAFE, all other money raised on convertible instruments before an equity raise are excluded.
Functionally, what this means is that while investors on standard SAFEs are diluted by other SAFE investors before an equity round (as are all common holders), investors on post-money SAFEs are not diluted by other investors on SAFEs before an equity round.
So unless I'm misunderstanding this, I believe this means that YC (which was previously a common holder like the founders) will no longer be diluted by the money founders raise on convertible notes or SAFEs before an equity round, whereas before they were diluted by that money.
To demonstrate this, I modeled out a scenario where a company goes through YC, raises $2m on a $10m cap pre-money SAFE after demo day, and then raises a $10m Series A equity round at a $30m pre-money valuation. Scenario A shows the old YC deal where YC has 7% common, and Scenario B shows the new YC deal where YC invests on a post-money SAFE
Scenario A: http://angelcalc.com/model?mod=802&dispShare=0e55666a4ad822e...
Scenario B: http://angelcalc.com/model?mod=803&dispShare=8a50bae297807da...
Note: click "Model" to see the results. In Scenario A, YC is listed as "YC" and in Scenario B YC is listed as "Post SAFE-0 (2.1mm)". As you can see YC ends up with 1.575% more equity in Scenario B.
The simplicity of this change is great but it's important that founders understand the downside as well. Team YC, if I'm misunderstanding this, please let me know.
This seems like a reasonable place for regulators to step in.
For those that don't know, as a first time founder and CEO I made a large number of mistakes I wish I hadn't. In retrospect, they seem bone headed but none of it was clear at the time. I wrote about those mistakes so others might avoid making them [1]. Unfortunately that blog post has been turned into a couple takedown pieces at my expense. Such is life.
Pretty impressed with GM for having the insight to understand that arrangement was best and the flexibility to pull it off. And incredibly impressed with what Kyle and his team have achieved post-acquisition. They clearly remain as hungry to make this happen as on day 1.
This has been one of the most insidiously destructive forces in the modern world. Luckily the millennial generation (even in America) is largely rejecting this conception of the purpose of business.
You can read Friedman's Op-ed in the NYTimes espousing this here: https://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/libertarians/issues/f...