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Indeed. This is a logical trap that people fall into over, and over again.

Just because this may be self serving for Apple, it doesn’t mean their interests can’t align with your own.

By that logic you could say that about anything that costs money, and is “compulsory”. Are food costs a privately run tax scheme?

And what if there is coordination? Are you not following the news today at all?

It is true. The difference is Twitter took action and removed offending posts, and removed it from the trending list.

What did you sell it for if you don’t mind my asking?

Your way of thinking fascinates and terrifies me.

A lot of people are saying things I don’t agree with, so it must be a problem with the “algorithm”.

Maybe it’s just that the majority of the people here feel a certain way.

He made no claims about any entity knowing better than any other entity.

Also, if you think a “private” company in China is even remotely the same as a private company in America you’re in for a surprise.

This reminds me. With the 700s, you can't even charge your headphones while using them.

They're junk

> I don't agree that anyone is trying to "steal an election". President Trump is being a sore loser, but I am certain he is leaving the White House peacefully come January 20th. His attempts to challenge the result in the courts have always been half-hearted. Back in 2000, each of Bush and Gore made sure they had the brightest legal minds of their respective parties on the case. Trump has not signed up the brightest legal minds of the GOP to challenge the result. I don't think he was ever really serious about it, he is just putting on a show. He can't steal an election, he doesn't even know how to pull that one off. But I think a lot of people – his supporters and detractors alike – fall too easily for Trump's shtick.

This line of reasoning doesn't jive with me, for the same reason a person trying, and failing, to commit a crime like murder is still guilty of committing a crime. If I attempt to kill you, and fail, a defense of "I was just putting on a show" isn't going to go so well for me in court. In short, his ineptitude doesn't make him any less guilty for what he's actually attempting.

Too many people - his supporters and detractors alike - give him too much credit when it comes to his abilities, and not enough credit when it comes to what he's actually capable of trying.

I'll add that, "Trump has not signed up the brightest legal minds" is an absurd justification for the opinion that this isn't a legitimate attempt to steal an election. At what point during Trump's presidency has he EVER selected the "brightest minds" for any post. This is Trump being Trump.

People pretending like this isn't happening, frankly, should be ashamed of themselves. And if it ISN'T happening, pretending like feigning an attempt to subvert American democracy to steal an election isn't a big deal, is also a shameful act in my opinion.

allegations !== evidence

> I think there almost certainly was some fraud, but not enough to change the outcome. (Whether or not "some but not enough to change the outcome" counts as "widespread", I don't know.)

Yea, that's what he said.

Regarding the rest of your comment: I don't think _anyone_ is arguing that the US electoral system is without flaw. A large system of any kind will have many flaws. Ask any software engineer.

Indeed, I'm also not aware of any person that wants to avoid, indefinitely, having a discussion about how we can improve the US election system. That being said, RIGHT NOW is decidedly not the right time. I'll be all for having an honest, bipartisan discussion as soon as there are no longer parties actively trying to steal an election. When it comes to election integrity, 100% of our focus needs to be on making sure that the results of _this_ election are respected. Then we can focus on improving things for future elections.

> This has been a solved problem for like a decade.

Tell that to Bose. Their newest 700 model headphones are a UX/Connectivity nightmare.

If not for the fact that the Sony noise cancelling headphones exist in the same price bracket, I could easily see myself going with a $500 pair of headphones that "just work".