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For about 20,000 years straight sea levels have steadily increased.

https://www.e-education.psu.edu/earth107/sites/www.e-educati...

Whether you like it or not, this is climate change and you cannot deny this. Obviously human activity has no impact on this.

You might look at more modern reliable data: https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...

We're up around 225mm or 22cm or 8inches over the last 100 years.

https://coast.noaa.gov/slr/

So about 100 years from now another 8inches or so. Hell, just go 1 foot.

New orleans, Miami, etc are probably going to need to build something to save themselves.

This is reality, but they have a long time to handle it.

>Democracies require compromise. But compromise becomes almost impossible when voters are divided into diametrically opposed camps.

One of the identity tricks that George W Bush used was being a yokel. The Democrats fell into the obvious trap of attacking his identity which immediately turned off tons of people. Then Bush kept going with identity politics. Like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_liberal

So then right after that, the democrats played the ultimate identity politics card with Obama. First black president! This is in context of Kanye West saying George W Bush doesn't care about black people during a hurricane for new orleans. Black identity was played hard.

The thing about identity politics is that it's not free. Bush's identity politics enabled and pushed the identity politics of Obama which created and enabled Trump. You'll notice that biden vs trump is old white dudes.

But more importantly, BLM for example seems like they are allied with Biden/Harris but who has so far done more for the black community? Trump. Biden and friends have passed and done nothing for BLM. Clinton described Trump’s supporters: “You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it.

You might ask, when does it end? It really doesn't until something pretty big breaks it. Civil war? War with China? War with Canada? It will be something very bloody to stop this and reunite people.

>Readers can also help protect birds by taking a few simple actions. An easy one is to install window screens or eliminate window reflections with film or paint.

The blame is on reflective windows?

>(A 2014 U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and Smithsonian study found that between 365 million and one billion birds die each year across the U.S. as a result of window strikes.)

That seems unreal. So I want to read said study.

https://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/pdf/management/lossetal20...

Oh wait... its cars hitting birds? Why did they seem to exclude this important detail? And the study clearly puts it that around 339 million is max? So the billion birds number is made up?

This article also seems to dance around the actual problem?

https://abcbirds.org/blog21/wind-turbine-mortality/

http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2018/ph240/scherr1/

The massive increase in windmills is the source of death. Every single typical windmill will kill dozens of bird and bats every year.

The gymnastics that OP is doing is to cover up the mass death by windmills.

>Can you give links to some one-sided conversations? I don't see many of those.

The first and most obvious topics are going to be the more controversial topics.

So look at climate change, covid/vaccines, US politics especially anything pro-trump or election fraud, and well anything touching on religion.

Here is today's climate change article, right on time.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29546875

Haven't quite read it yet but I'd bet there's only 1 side talking there.

Hydrogen is a fuel. I suspect trains in north america will be converted to hydrogen first and later move to battery electric when better batteries and charging at that scale become available. We missed the window of converting our rail to electric overhead. The extreme subsidies for truckers also negatively impacts rail investment.

Planes might be replaced with blimps. Hydrogen blimps with hydrogen storage on board outperforms any boat in terms of cost to move goods. Going from nyc to los angeles would be much longer, similar to driving across, but what if the blimp is like a resort or night train where you're given a room and beds? Have entertainment options.

Though really what the OP is about. Hydrogen isn't an option for cars. The japanese government made some decisions and now Toyota and Honda are pretty far behind. Even where Toyota in the USA with bzx4. We dont technically know yet but it seems like their battery sucks. They likely intended 150kw single motor and then 300kw dual motor. Yet their abysmal 160kw dual motor signifies their battery is trash. It's also tremendously small. They are targeting lower cost, which is fine, but low cost new platforms? They are going to have a bad time.

If toyota and honda are smart, they'll see their hydrogen call value in other transportation fields like blimps.

>People already thought Trump was xenophobic, and Trump himself even played up the stereotype, since it was politically useful; so anything that could be interpreted as xenophobic, was. People don't think Biden is xenophobic, so they look for alternative explanations instead.

Putting aside the horrendous worldwide result that Biden and friends caused by calling Trump xenophobic. Most likely delaying and or preventing similar travel restrictions until it's too late.

Imagine what would have happened if Biden agreed saying Trump should do more lockdowns. What if Tam and Singh in Canada also didn't call Trump xenophobic and recommended we close the borders. Would north america be a much better place covidwise?

Also yes, trump doesnt play it up persay but simply shows how toxic the democrats are. How many people are simply fed up with being called racist by the democrats over and over and over? Everytime Biden or similar calls Trump names, they lose voters.

>Ultimately it has to be determined whether the election was or was not fraudulent.

That seems to be the problem. We can't seem to say anything that might challenge it. Here's 425 bills in 49 states proving conclusively that the republicans believe it was fraudulent, but literally nobody saying anything

>By some process outside of both the political parties, that they are capable of both respecting. If that ceases to happen - once the parties cease respecting court rulings and public inquiries - then the ability to hold free and fair elections starts to collapse and you get power grabs like that.

Oh no, we went the other direction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_efforts_to_restrict...

So very clearly the republicans believe the election was fraudulent. What is the democrat response? Assert the republicans are attacking democracy. Which is absolutely not the case.

Lets just hypothetical this? Lets say the republicans fail to fix the fraudulent election? Lets say 425 bills are failed and nothing changes. Do you believe the republicans just accept their fate? No, that'll be civil war for sure.

>(IMO the US federal system should simply not let states run Federal elections, they keep having to sue them to ensure fairness)

For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_Integrity_Act_of_2021

Georgia has passed significant changes. Biden calls it racially discriminatory but I fail to see how that's the case. DOJ is suing and I guess will prove how its racist but I dont see how that works. Georgian republicans very clearly believe the election was fraudulent and the cheating party is calling them racists without any legitimatcy to the claim. Its not like the bill says black people cant vote.

What's the alternative? It certainly means democracy falls if this didn't become law. What's very interesting and I cant wait to see in 2023. Will georgia flip back?

>Wait, you're predicting 40% inflation in the US over the next few years?

So is many others. It's possible to look at the numbers and make the assumption the central banks won't reverse this. Afterall that basically never happens in history.

M0 money supply was increased about 100%. M1 was increased by about 400% Those arent direct relationships, M2 on the otherhand... the bump from covid and increase in rate clearly denotes about 40% inflation locked in. It wont show up all in 2022. It'll spread out over time. But worse yet, what happens in between?

>Seems like bloomberg is prepping the masses to live in poverty.

That's what high inflation does.

The government printed significant amounts of money as per benefits during covid. They did this to prevent a housing crash and subsequent harm to the wealth of society.

The thing is... the housing crash is only 1 market. It is actually better to have housing crash relative to how poor we are about to become as a whole.

Its remarkable that the decision to blow up inflation directly benefits anyone who owns a house. Regardless of their debt owed on the house. This will effectively be the poor class paying the most to prevent rich house holders from pain.

>In short, the curation of HN is what makes it great. Relaxing it would ruin this place.

I feel like the opposite. This 'curation' creates and harbours one sided conversations at best and what's the point? 1 sided conversations are not conversations, you are playing tennis with a wall. The wall will always win.

>These two categories overlap but are not the same. This is a problem of asking a yes/no question to about access to a vague category that contains thousands of services.

This is the subjectivity of politics in a nutshell. Well written.

>This relates to your post in that you can't fact check imprecise claims that mean different things to different listeners.

Let me even propose more what should the immigration number be? This is a bit of a bigger issue in my country but lets stick with USA.

It's around 1 million new legal immigrants a year.

If I say it should be 750,000 vs you say it should be 1.5 million. There is no way to say what is correct.

What happens in my country? Anyone who thinks we should have less immigration is literally a white supremacist.

Even just side line: https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1223727977361338370?s=20

February 2020, Trump took the plan from Obama's playbook to restrict travel from China. For which he was called xenophobic and fear mongering. Even just looking to stop travel because of covid, not even just reducing immigrant and he's called xenophobic.

Hindsight 20/20 Biden looks very bad here because he himself has now done the same thing that Trump did.

What's the misinformation here? Should we be looking to censor something?

>Thanks a lot for the explanation! I greatly appreciate you taking the time to break things down for me.

It's a super complex issue that even the Fed probably has yet to understand. So I certainly don't as well. Many consequences could happen instead.

Flipside, what just happened? The government effectively owns a huge portion of land again. Sure someone else is holding the title but really the government owns it. The banks/funds sold it to the government because they know they dont want to hold it.

What does communism look like? The government owns everything.

How topics are approached is important. Do you believe children of illegal immigrants should be allowed access to healthcare/schools? Most people will say yes. You then by definition also believe we should have government services/benefits provided to illegal immigrants. If you ask in reverse, do you believe illegal immigrants should receive government services/benefits. Most people will say no. It's not a left or right wing thing. Bipartisan support depending how it's phrased.

The problem with politics is that it's very subjective and how the topic is approach matters greatly. There is no ability to 'fact check' the majority of politics. What fact checkers really are is just censors. This article is concerned about first amendment because they are calling for censorship.

Now back to the article, how's the approach? The article also very clearly is written in 1 direction. Covid conspiracies like lab leak, climate change of florida being under water right now, and election fraud where Republicans have submitted 425 election bills across 49 states because they see the election as fraudulent. Are those misinformation or just politically inconvenient truths?

Clear political skew on the positions is the approach here. I'm not in the USA, not American but when you label your political opponent's speech as lies/misinformation. Bad things happen and Trump is the tip of the iceberg of bad things coming because of this activity.

>I would love to understand why the fed hasn't increased interest rates to counter the rapid increase of inflation..?

Collapse of the underlying assets that they hold. Bailing out the housing market during the pandemic means the fed holds lots of housing market. The theory is that they will let the assets mature and then pull the money back out to come back to a balance. I'll tell you now, if you believe that's about to happen I've got a bridge to sell you. The US still hadn't done this the day before covid started. Covid is far worse.

>I remember learning some basic economics in 2019 about how the U.S. learned a valuable lesson from 2008.

The irony is that the financial crisis at least help the USA today. Compare this to other countries like Canada and we are far worse off than the USA during the financial crisis.

>How they will never make the same mistakes of letting inflation go unchecked because they have tools to work against it.

Those tools are maxed out.

> Yet inflation has rapidly scaled to 6.8% (reported).

The fed made the claim that they would run inflation hotter because they didnt hit target of 2% during covid. The problem? They had to act by now. They've past that threshold of coming to parity.

>Also, I am keeping supply chain demand in mind but I don't think it excuses the fed's decision to not immediately start curbing high inflation rates. My guess is that people with money are profiting and want to continue profiting until it is no longer sustainable.

The metric to look at was GDP. When GDP was 6.7%, inflation was at 5.4% or so. The big problem is that gdp dropped to 2.1% and recession metrics spiked.

If the fed increases rates while gdp is dropping. recession is certain. It's too late for them to undo what they did bailing out the housing market. It would seem counterproductive to spend all this money to prevent housing from crashing just to let it crash anyway.

So we're stuck. Inflation is going sky high. It looks to be about 40% locked in right now over the next few years.

You thought minimum wage wasnt keeping up? This is literally everyone except the rich getting much poorer soon.

>No, he isn’t going to a FISA court, those don’t try criminal cases…

Never said he was. He's going to the spy court in virginia. It's obviously not something you list on wikipedia.

FISA is too monitored. The court he'll be going to always sides with the government.

Assange is going to the same place Daniel Hale, Chelsea Manning, Paul Manafort, various terrorists.

I wonder if Assange will ever see if he is guilty or not. Epstein treatment incoming. Though I do believe he will be treated properly, no enhanced torture or anything.

>Will he be tried by a common jury or a military one? No way a common jury finds him guilty.

Neither. This is the Espionage Act, so he's going to the spy court. Those doors will be closed and the jury will consist of people who work for the government. The court case will be over way way faster than you might expect.

>The US is murdering international journalists.

The USA is in 4 ongoing wars crossing 3 different administrations.

The USA likes killing international people.

There's an interesting book I read not long ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_Policing

For the most part I didn't learn anything new. Though didn't necessarily agree with everything.

If you were to list out every task the police do and don't do.

Eliminate any and all laws that the police never enforce.

Fix any law which is disproportionately applied. For example, less than 1% of traffic accidents are because of speeding. Yet police enforce speeding laws extensively doing huge damage to society. On top of that, so many of the applications are intentionally meant to be antagonistic toward society. Speeding laws are meant to be set where 80% of society does not break the law. That's not at all how it is. It's set such that 100% of society is breaking the law. With intention of revenue generation.

It's not just speeding. It's all the petty laws meant to generate revenue. Does your bike have a bell? These laws change police from law enforcement to antagonistic toward society. This is the fundamental problem. The police are no longer there to help you, they are there to be against you. Anything you say will be used AGAINST you in the court of law. Anything you say will NEVER BE USED FOR you in the court of law. The police are the enemy, this is intentional design and no politician ever will consider fixing this problem.

>The idea of the 80 year generation related cycles is interesting. But your tangent about you don't like some narrow climate change 8.5 scenario means it's just some kind of a scam is just wrong. And you kind of go back and forth on whether climate change is real or not. I can't follow your arguments.

I would find this characterization of my position on climate change to be quite inaccurate. I will take the blame for being unclear in my text.

The point about climate change I was making, there's clearly some BS happening and has happened by people like Al Gore. These actions have made climate change look political and not scientific. If climate change is the impending end of the saeculum that's about to kill a boatload of people. I think we won't be ready.

>Do you have any ideas? Who is thinking and writing about this? How does one capture the excitement and hype of space to the actual importance of the ocean?

Bioplastics are probably a big factor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioplastic

Dont need to clean up plastic in the ocean if it properly biodegrades. We need to get it to scale and costs low enough to replace oil based plastics. Which might be virtually impossible because if oil stops being used for fuel, it'll end up increasing and becoming cheaper for plastics. Eventually though the scarcity of oil and the extensive availability of corn and potatoes means you win.

>Getting 99% of votes does not entitle you from expropriating the capital of remaining 1%. It does not work that way.

Well I'm not saying Jacinda is planning to do this? In fact I never checked out their platform or plans. Perhaps they are?

>I think the world has been seized by an apocalyptic mood. Everyone is acting like the party is going to stop soon so they better grab what they can now.

Factfulness by Hans Rosling broke me out of this a few years ago. This apocalyptic mood is completely untrue and is being pushed by political ideologues. We are in a fantastic time.

>This mood excuses a lot of behavior that would otherwise seem off limits. If the end is near, why worry about consequences? Get yours before it’s too late!

It's not quite that. We are at a major inflection point in politics and economics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generatio...

We are at the end of a saeculum which usually ends with a very bloody war or something to the level of killing a huge proportion of the world population.

Ray Dalio has talked about the long term debt cycle which also matches up exactly with these saeculums. We are there.

When socialism died in 1989, it took time for this to truly die. Neo liberalism and the culture wars is basically over. This was the last hurrah of communism/socialism. We are here. What seems to be happening now is that politically socialism is dead, it is becoming a religion. Super exciting to see a new major religion forming.

>Why is this happening? Well if you can explain it, then you’ve got a good shot for at least a Ph.D. in sociology. The global pandemic obviously doesn’t help, but I think it just exacerbated a mood that was already there.

It's known, everyone is pulling up contemporary writers to Marx who predicted exactly what happened. The problem is the socialists don't think they've lost. So instead of acknowledging socialism failed, it's just apocalypse. Everything needs to be torn down and start over.

It's worse for socialists. If they acknowledge socialism failed, let it fail. How do they work within capitalism? Oh they do exactly what capitalism perscribes. Socialists could use robotics, ai, automation, etc to produce goods at virtually no cost and destroy capitalism from within.

>My own theory is that the root cause is decades of wide-spread awareness of global warming. Either you understand the science and implications, or you think it’s a global hoax being perpetrated to excuse oppression. Either way it sits in the background every day like a tick tock clock of impending doom. It’s huge and so far totally unresolved.

About to blow your mind. Yes capitalism won, neoliberalism is king. But that doesn't mean climate change isn't real. Yes technically the losing camp are the people in the climate change camp.

The other problem politicians like al gore pushed the climate change hoax to further his political agenda. So you now need your thinking cap on to figure out where the hoax starts and climate change ends. Where is that line? You can see the hoax for your own eyes on wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record#/m...

Look at IPCC RCP8.5 bubbles for 2050 and 2100 years. Now read what 8.5 is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_Concentration_P...

8.5 isn't happening. It's not going to happen. So why would this graph use only the worst prediction? One that isnt even happening? Because the true path doesnt look bad. It looks less bad than the Eemian spike.

So is this the hoax line? Where they outright misrepresent threats and risks? If we dont mispresent the science, will we not act and climate change kills everyone?

Or crazy yet? What if we don't act and nothing bad really happens? So far that's what has happened.

>A lot of the world, to me, is just not acting like tomorrow will come, metaphorically. It will, though, and to me the interesting implication is that it seems a fantastic time to build new long-term things. If you can get the resources and talent, you could build something to win the next decade while everyone else is scrambling to grab what is sitting right in front of them.

Did you know there's actual correlation between economic depression and psychological depression?

Kind of going back to ray dalio's long term debt cycle. When the cycle peaks, those who are significantly in debt have stress because of their debt. We don't know, but the probability we had significant psychological depression during the great depression is so high.

I like what you said, it's a great time to start building something. It doesn't matter if climate change is a problem. We have a limited resource that will increasingly become scarce and become more expensive. Staying on oil is a very dumb idea.

So it's super simple to see where all these ideas are. Build anything that replaces oil and you will win. Plastics, airplanes, trains, etc. Someone needs to come around and do this.

>But what's up with Jacinda? Is she afraid of Maori adults, why not just ban tobacco entirely?

Kind of side line question. Jacinda got a huge result in the election. Their majority and nearly majority popular vote effectively authorizes them do whatever they please.

So why not go all the way on all their efforts?

Go look for 'lung cancer' statistics post ~2007. It's going to be quite difficult to find this data and when you do... Why are lung cancer rates WAY WAY up?

Tobacco smoking is way down in part due to 'education' and tremendous taxes. The reason they dont really show the post 2007 data is that it's really bad. It destroys the correlation that tobacco is even involved in lung cancer. In fact, it now looks like tobacco's toxicity might have been kind of a chemotherapy poison holding back lung cancer.

Worse yet, all the 'education' means nobody at all is looking into it. Everyone just blames tobacco still. I'm not saying go buy a pack of cigarettes, but creating a black market like NZ is about to do is the wrong choice.

>The following is not so much an attempt at arguing with the poster but to correct falsehoods and blatant misrepresentations in their post.

Always welcome being corrected. Not usually good when you open a reply calling me a liar.

>Right now he’s only in prison due to the extradition trial. The reason he isn’t out on bail is because he skipped bail in the past.

Aka multiple reasons. I dont believe I am lying here.

>This is an incredibly absurd recount of Swedish law. It’s evident you do not know much about it. Swedish law defines rape as sex without consent. This definition was passed in 2018. The accusations against Assange were made in 2010.

So you are asserting that I am a liar because rape wasn't illegal in 2010? Sure they updated the law in 2018 but rape was certainly illegal before 2018. What exactly dont i know about?

>The conviction rates do not reflect your assumption that sex itself is deemed illegal in Sweden. The charges against Assange were also dropped.

Convicted rape is up >1,000% over the last several decades in Sweden. Sweden is the rape capitol of the developed world. Are Swedish men disproportionately rapists compared to other countries like UK, Canada, or USA? Or is it their laws?

This app was created in Sweden: https://legalfling.io/ which by name implies sex is illegal unless steps are taken. This is tantamount to making sex illegal in sweden. As I said, 'effectively made sex illegal'. Their birthrates are down 25-50%. Very bad sign long term for their society.

>By the way, one accusation against him was that he penetrated a woman without a condom while she was sleeping. That is considered rape in most countries around the world.

Incorrect. That is what the prosecutor alleged but the women did not. It was fully consensual. Which is why assange wanted assurance that he would answer the crimes in sweden but only if it ends there. sweden cant extradite or anything. They didnt go for it because that's fully what they intended to do. The rape allegation didnt matter, it didnt matter that there was absolutely no chance of conviction because of public comments by the women. They wanted to extradite. The swedish prosecutor is clearly affiliated with the CIA.

>So even if we were to take your incorrect description of Sweden’s rape laws seriously they wouldn’t fit the bill here.

You never rebutted my 'description'. You never even provided one of your own.

>The US case against Assanges originated in the Obama era. However his administration decided to not go forward with it. It was Trump’s administration who decided to make the extradition request. Assange was forced out of the Ecuadorian embassy during Trump’s tenure. So this had nothing to do with DNC leaks, nor was this a Democrat endeavor.

Trump never ordered anything. It was public knowledge that he was approached on the subject and he refused to take part. Saying he wasn't going to influence the justice system. Either stopping the efforts put forth by Obama, pardoning or otherwise. As I said, he made a huge mistake doing that, pardoning assange would have been a very smart idea. Assange being thrown out of the embassy had nothing to do with trump. So ya absolutely, as you said obama era and dnc leaks is entirely what this is about.

>Whatever one thinks of Assange or his work with Wikileaks, the way he is being treated by the US and the UK is entirely absurd and does not show any signs of fair trial at this point.

I like wikileaks and such, so far the USA hasnt done much, The extradition isnt happening as far as I know. I highly doubt the appeal will work out. I guess we find out tomorrow, but i doubt the USA wins.

The UK had legitimate crimes for him to answer for. He was obviously convicted because he did commit the crime. Assange will likely soon be a free man and he'll get the Epstein treatment from the DNC.

> News outlets in the US have done a poor job at holding the government accountable here. If Assange does get extradited and convicted it will break journalism in the United States fundamentally.

You have a very bad understanding of news outlets in the USA. I'm not even sure where to start. You wont believe me anyway, I lie and blatantly misrepresent something.

>Can someone here enlighten me how a default can be "contagious"?

1 persons income is another person's spending. Why would evergrande default anyway? Did they over lever? Definitely, but also their underlying revenues dried up. The war with china is feeling it's effects now.

Now that evergrande has defaulted, it means others who needed their money to pay their debts also can't. Afterall, many of them also will be feeling the pain that evergrande is feeling. The war with china didn't target evergrande, they are just the most levered and large enough to realize the pain.

The irony of it all, this is capitalist china that's hurting, but China needs capitalist china. If you excluded taiwan, HK, and the other capitalist china zones, china is far worse than greece. They'd have to cut so much that the peasants suddenly are living much worse. Peasant revolt incoming.

>So we don’t classify jailed and tortured Julian Assange as a journalist even though he broke amongst some of the biggest news stories over the last 20 years.

I do believe he is considered a journalist but he's in prison for multiple reasons. False and retracted sexual assault allegations in Sweden. Which technically had nothing to do with journalism and far more to do with Sweden's considerable problem with rape in their country. Sweden went to the extent that it's rape if you don't have written consent for sex. They also removed all the intent/threats/violence as being part of it as well. Effectively they made sex illegal.

>Or that the Trump administration planned on assasinating him.

Woah, never heard this before. Trump directly benefitted from assange and even praised him. Though never actually helped him in any way. I believe he kinda disavowed knowing anything about him. I do believe that was a big political mistake by Trump. If Trump gave Assange a pardon... that would have been huge.

As for CIA making plans under Trump... clearly didnt happen.

> Or that Joe Biden is trying to extradite him on trumped up charges (pun not intended).

It is afterall the democrat email servers assange leaked. Biden's going all in for sure.

>Or the Black TV reporter Bilal Abdul Kareem from Chicago that Obama tried to kill multiple times:

woah, thats another i never heard. nobel peace prize obama took his attention away from his 7 wars to try to kill some journalist from his home city?

This seems more like the CIA isn't under control.

>If history is a guide, President Joe Biden’s $1.3 trillion investment may not fund nearly as much transportation as it would in much of the rest of the world.

The article and comments seem to align in that it's portrayed as 'inefficient' but missing that the bill doesn't have much infrastructure in it.

It does have $10 billion for a civilian climate corp: https://www.npr.org/2021/05/11/993976948/reaching-back-to-th...

$20 Billion to Advance Racial Equity and Environmental Justice, for which i don't know what that means but that's not infrastructure.

$175 Billion in Subsidies for Electric Vehicles but only if they are built by unionized workers. Tesla/Musk pretty upset.

$213 Billion to Build/Retrofit 2 Million buildings. Not exactly infrastructure and guess who is earmarked for that...

$25 Billion for Government Childcare Programs again not infrastructure. These might be good ideas but it's not infrastructure.

Infrastructure costs so much because it's not being bought. The money is going to lots of other things.

Most of the comments are light grey. Beware, alligator infested waters ahead!

Environmental News Network? Anyone think it's a reliable source? I've never heard of them.

>wasn't there a huge effort, like 60+ lawsuits? to show fraud? why was there no significant fraud found?

I look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_efforts_to_restrict...

The republicans have made it very clear through their actions they believe the election was fraudulent. 425 bills in 49 states post-election is something pretty significant.

It's interesting that they don't say it. They can't say it can they? Trust in democracy is so low from the democrats saying they republicans stole the elections. If the Michigan republicans came out and said that they believe the election was illegitimate. What happens? Trump isnt getting into office. It's not going to change anything. What are the consequences? The militia folks might go take over the capitol or something? Worse? Civil war? The union splitting? Been seeing lots of that talk.

Instead what can michigan do? They've introduced 39 election reform bills https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/03/...

You dont introduce 39 bills because you feel the election went smoothly. They control the senate and house. Those bills will likely pass.

Interesting they just outright put in the title 'based on lies' but that's needed. They are going to do all this voter supression etc based on lies but it'll happen. It has to happen. If 1 side of the election thinks it wasn't legitimate. The next election will be going much more smoothly.

To get back to your question. The same reason Michigan's republicans say the election was fine with various problems is the same reason you heard of 'no significant fraud found' goes back to being unable to say it.