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Part of this has to do with the cost of Ubuntu. I'm not talking paying developers to make sure it works on the machine, but the actual cost that Canonical charges for the ability to use the Ubuntu logo and becoming "certified"; It's not a trivial amount of money by any stretch.

Anyone can preinstall Ubuntu on a machine and release it, they just can't say it is Ubuntu specifically or use the logos.

And I don't advocate not paying it or not becoming certified, we are considering it currently but I can say that management has balked a few times when we've brought it up has been due to the amount of money required up front.

Kinda reminds me of the Amazon outage. Except that they aren't apologizing. And they are looking to blame anyone but themselves.

Evolution runs on Windows too. SUSE build system builds it almost daily. Just google for evolution win32 Email and you should find it

When Paypal updates their EULA and various other policies I get an email about it and I can't remember if it's the link or in the email itself but it has a summary of what has changed since the last one.

I logged in to make the same comment. If you want someone to use your product, the best way to do that isn't to call them sheep

It won't let me respond to your comment, and you're right, I shouldn't have made that comment. I do apologize, and apparently misread the comment. Hopefully people can look past both things and realize that there is more to ARM than just "omg the processor isn't as fast as a quad core i7"; That said, I'm also looking forward to this board and hope it makes it stateside. I love ARM (if you couldn't tell), and the main thing holding it back is the lack of people who are familiar with it. Since it's been most typically an embedded processor, most people don't write software for it unless it is specialized.

And pretty much any game that runs on an iPhone could run on an ARM desktop. Off the top of my head, popular "mainstream" games that I can think of would be Street Fighter 4, Mirror's Edge, I'm sure there are more, I just happen to have those 2 installed on my iPhone. ARM machines can also run Android, as long as you are willing to put in the kernel work, and most companies do these days.

The EfikaMX has a "desktop" version as well as a netbook version. They are both almost identical, although the netbook version doesn't have any video out. It also runs off of a 3 cell battery, and gets somewhere in the range of 6-8 hours of solid usage, not just sitting there almost suspended. They(i.MX515) pack the AMD(ATI)z430 3D unit, which runs at 133MHz (the i.MX535 version will run at 200MHz); This is also known as a Qualcomm Adreno, although the Adreno uses a z180 instead of z160 for the 2D unit, not sure if it uses something other than the z430 for 3D. The difference between the graphics card in the Xbox360, and these is that the 360's runs at (i believe) 600MHz.

I'm not sure what graphics card will come with the ARM11, but if it does 1080p and OpenGL ES 2.0, then I'd guess that it's a Mali. I could definitely be wrong, but really, at 25 dollars, even if you only played with it every once in a while, it's probably worth it. And if they do a buy one give one like OLPC did, I'd definitely order a minimum of 4. I hope they are able to, and I'll be watching closely.

I have a Trimslice Dev-Kit (I'm a Gentoo developer) and I have one of the 32GB on order. There are probably other things incorrect in your comment but the main point I want to address is the "equivalent to a pentium 3"; this is definitely not the case. Just because it is a dual core running at 1ghz doesn't mean it's slow. In fact most ARM machines are slower than their equivalent chips, but not as much as people would think. An example is the EfikaMX (Cortex A-8 @ 800MHz) runs only ~20% slower than an Atom clocked at 1.6GHz. But at a fraction of the power usage. My apartment is full of ARM machines and I have a build farm of ~20 that are compiling software (Ubuntu and Gentoo) 24/7 and my power bill was 40 dollars. They also generate much less heat, and don't require fans, and most run off integrated SSD drives (PATA and SATA) so there are no moving parts at all in them. And... They are cheap. I can get a brand new ARM based netbook for 200 dollars that gives me ~ the equivalent processing of an Atom netbook of the same price... Except the Atom netbook is a refurb.

Cheaper, lower power consumption, and almost the same processing power. It works for me, sure I can't use proprietary software, or something like dropbox that requires a proprietary daemon, but I don't really miss it much. At first you notice but as you use it more, you come to realize that you really didn't need it.

Sorry if this was a huge wall of text, I am responding via my phone.

Most expire the mapping within a few days although AT&T Uverse routers default to ~30 days. Personally due to the fact that I tend to set up a lot of machines and want them available by hostname I set mine to ~30 minutes.

I agree with the author that the stigma is that you only work at McDonalds if you are a loser. At least in major cities. I grew up in the country as well and perhaps the teachings are a tad different there. I was taught that any income is better than no income. And McDonalds is some income. Now all you see are a bunch of people attempting to become the next Facebook, google or Color. Too many people think that if they work at McDonalds or any other fast food joint that they are stuck there instead of realizing that they are actually contributing more than just slaving away.

Glad I got mine recently. I was freaked out by the fact that when I handed them my birth certificate, they didn't hand it back. "It will be returned to you by mail" they said; I'm not sure why they needed to keep the birth certificate, but it did in fact come back to me. (I was more freaked out over the fact that I had paid 50 dollars for the birth certificate and didn't want to lose it (plus dropping another 220 to get the passport rushed))

This isn't unity specific, the only reason they did it was to see if the user could then find the document. The failing in this specific case is more on the side of Libre/OpenOffice.

I use a Logitech G15, and it has a little switch on it to switch between "computer" and "gaming" mode. Since I rarely use(d) the super/windows key, I tend to just leave it in "gaming" mode. Without running into a post like this, I would have found it extremely tedious to click the icon type the application name, and then click it's icon.

While I'm sure I'm in a minority, it is always something to consider when writing shortcuts to consider that people may not have a key available.

I haven't tried recently but last attempt I believe alt+f2 did not work as a "run" dialog

Where is P6? Was there one and their comments were so bad that they didn't add it to the list? Numbers missing in a list like that really bug me. It also causes me to wonder why it never comes up. I haven't read the thread since a lot earlier and being as I know a few people around the Ubuntu camp I asked them and no one seemed to have any idea why P6 was not on the list.

I work with Ubuntu for work ( we make ARM devices ) so every so often I have to run Natty to test if it is usable yet. If you have a "decent" OpenGL graphics card, then depending on when you install it may or may not work. I currently have an issue with working with the dock or launcher or whatever name they are calling it. Right clicks are being passed through to the desktop so I can't remove or add anything to it.

If you don't have an OpenGL based video card ( no ARM machine does, they all use a subset of OpenGL called OpenGL ES ) then upon logging in, you get a long dialog explaining that you need to logout and choose classic desktop. And it has an exit button. When you click said exit button, after a bit it loads the classic desktop, however the xsettings manager doesn't get started (or it might, just depends on if it feels like running it seems) and gnome becomes very ugly.

There is no mention of Unity-2D which is a version that is QT based. And it suffers from the same issues, xsettings may or may not launch and then you have a ton of dialogs about apps crashing in the background ( this is with either Gnome "classic" or with Unity-2D ).

Ubuntu made great strides in making the Linux desktop accessible for everyone, but this latest release shows just how much further they need to go.

Keep in mind that at the time the decision to write and use Unity was made, the Gnome 3 desktop was in an absolute mess. A lot of work has happened since then and it would be even better if Mark Shuttleworth could swallow his pride and just scrap the Unity project and work with upstream like before.

I mention the ARM bit at the beginning of my statement if only out of frustration due to the fact that our company provided Ubuntu developers with over 50 machines that are in either a desktop configuration or netbook yet it still doesn't run anywhere close to where it should on them.

And to address who does it, it doesn't matter. Someone in the company should be in charge of doing the backups. If no one else will, then take it upon yourself to do so. If you have a medium sized company, someone in your IT department should be doing it. And if you are a large company, there is simply no excuse.

You should always have at least 2 different backups, one on site and one off site (disaster recovery) these are completely separate from "it's in the cloud so I don't have to worry about it." And this is why I personally dislike "the cloud" because too many people rely on it and don't have a proper plan in place. You can rely on it sure, but don't only rely on it.

In house or external doesn't matter. You always backup.

Because it seems to be a foreign concept in this day and age, I will repeat it again.

You always backup.

Why don't people make backups anymore? I know that using Google Apps is much easier than running your own stuff in-house. It requires much less time and resources, but at the same time there are still best practices and disaster recovery plans that should always have something about backups in them. And just having them isn't good enough. They also need to be followed. Having worked at a place without these ( and attempting to get them implemented ) versus where I currently work that has them and follows them, I have to say, there are a lot fewer times where I feel like screaming here. Do it, and stop expecting 100% uptime and availability of all docs/important information from any service, internal or external. Nothing is 100% but there are many ways to make it less stressful.

That was kind of the point. He wasn't supposed to settle unless they did something they obviously never would. AKA never settle

Fwiw, Freescale has a 64bit ppc processor now... Either way though, until you're able to just drop an ARM processor into a "commodity" motherboard, it won't really see widespread use, aside from cell phones, and other mobile devices. There is also the fact that ARM processors all seem to have the graphics card embedded in the chip.

No they haven't. The closest you would come would be a tegra2 which is dual core and I believe the omap4 is dual core as well. Though iirc, you can't currently use both cores in Linux. Freescale have announced the imx6 which should have quad, dual and single cores but availability won't be until q4 (though they are pushing hard to get it before then I think.) You still are currently limited with ram on an ARM machine which I think is the biggest hinderance to going in to servers. Presently almost all server software works on an ARM machine with a few exceptions like spidermonkey (so no running Launchpad) but plenty of people use them as personal servers.

How is this pertinent to HN but the Israel attacks on Gaza not?

You are bitching about gif not being open while advocating flash... And telling him that he looks foolish?

It isn't only the iPhone that doesn't have flash. Many people work on different architectures than x86 or x86_64. Some of us even want to watch these cool little bits. I realize that in your world there is only the PC, the Mac, and the iPhone, but out here in the real world there are many things in between. Standards are good and you're right, gif isn't one of them, but at least it works pretty much across the spectrum.

The only issue with that is if you don't have a spiffy OpenGL video card. Mutter and Clutter have come a very long way since the decision not to use them.

More helpful tip. If you're going to make a snarky comment, use the app so you know what the fuck you're talking about. Too many comments on hacker news are from people who are completely uninformed or just haven't taken any time with whatever it is they are commenting on. Disclaimer: I haven't tried the app personally but only because I can't stand apps posting on my Facebook or twitter stream.

Entirely possible. Currently I am a dropbox customer and see no benefit in switching to Amazon. The only thing that would make me switch is if they came out with a Linux ARM client. It's the only hardware I have that doesn't have a native client and as more and more ARM devices are coming to market, more people will be wanting that. As a Linux developer, it does feel as if Linux is a third world citizen and the company I work for has offered to do the work for them in porting it to ARM but with no response. If Amazon were to make the ARM client they would definitely see uptake in clients on the devices.