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I think the most obvious comparison is Firebase, but as a self-hosted solution deepstream is much cheaper (5-10x, dependant on the usecase). The creators of deepstream.io have actually written a blog post that covers this exact topic: https://deepstream.io/blog/realtime-framework-overview/

Is it possible to cluster deepstream in multiple AWS regions? It may be beneficial when it comes to latency...

What always strikes me is the amount of free traffic Hetzner includes in their plans, always 20TB and upwards.

AWS charges a whooping 90$ per TB, it keeps me wondering why their traffic is SO much more expensive than Hetzner's...

X gon give it to ya!

Same here. However ello stayed competetive in the niche of a social network for artist and creators, which is probably fine for the people behind it.

True, maybe https://github.com/firebase could help with some reverse engineering. However, I discovered the Firebase document and the deepstream.io record structure to be fairly similar, so with the help of https://github.com/firebase/firebase-queue the migration from Firebase to deepstream.io + RethinkDB might be possible. As a more general note, I would expect some of the stuff you mentioned to happen in the upcoming months/years, since Firebase is right now set to become the universal plattform for app devs (analytics, dynamic links etc.) rather than a standalone database offering.

If you ate not willing/able to pay for managed cloud services like Firebase, there are some really cool self-hosted alternatives out there (like deepstream.io and horizon.io). Open-sourcing software should always be a can, not a must. We could as well expect Amazon to open source DynamoDB, which is proprietary as well and still has quite a lot of users.

I know everybody would love to see this, but for me it's a bit much to ask from Google to open-source Firebase since they invested quite a lot of time and money into it to get to the current version. Apart from that, I can definetly recommend http://deepstream.io as a Firebase alternive, although it currently lacks an Android/iOS client (Java client is in the works).

Probably not, scince Signal doesn't really support secure web communication (without phone routing).

I wonder how they encrypted their chat on the web client. Scince the Signal protocol is kind of the gold standard right now, probably their solution might in the end be the better one.

I may be naive, but Firebase may be the perfect fit for this kind of task scince it scales pretty good. Niantec would probably get massive discounts as well as an Ex-google company...

Best Comment: "If you've got UI problems, I feel bad for you son. I've got 99 problems, but design ain't one."

How was your overall experience for the swich to self-hosted ads in terms of time and money you had to invest given that the main sellingpoint for Adsense is its ease of use?

Sure, no problem! Was just curious, it seemed too good to be true :D

Could you share a link to the Firebase SMS verification you stated in your comment? Was actually looking for something like this... :D

Looks really promising to me, relatively similar to www.deepstream.io . However, will there be additional clients /are they already in development by the community? So far I only found support for vue.js and React. Polymer elements would be pretty dope... ;)

I am not that into this topic, but could you compare DL to Soundclouds Roshi[0], and if not, whats different? Thanks! [0] https://github.com/soundcloud/roshi

True, but if you are looking for offline adaptions of your webapp there is a really cool technology called service worker that works as an offline cache for your whole app.

Well, only partly true. Because all paper/iron elements are adapting seamlessly on mobile, there is no real need for a mobile framework.

1. I found it interesting that some 'projects' only officially support Atom, e.g. www.polymer-project.org

2. Really fast release scedule. While this may trade of some stability here and there, it cetainly adds new features quicker than Sublime or Vim (AFAIK).

--If you're willing to pay, why not JetBrains or Sublime?

3. Why should you pay for other Editors if you don't have to with atom? :D I'm a CS student and a lot of people I know are using atom because they can't afford/ are not willing to pay ~50 bucks for an IDE/ text editor.

I am extesively using the polymer webcomponents framework, do I need to install react in the background or can I use draft.js independently?

Do you have any suggestions how to get started with deepstream + polymer (webcomponent library by google www.polymer-project.org/1.0/ )? I have been doing some research on your website and I found toutorials for every major frontend framework except polymer, I would really appreciate a toutorial as a starting point for further projects, deepstream looks very promising to me!