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Not even close to true. If Apple were to exfiltrate your files, or monitor your screen intentionally without you opting in, they’d be taken to pieces in court.

One can set aside all this economic tea-leaf reading and just look at the perception of the products:

Facebook: falling rapidly

Google: steadily trending down

Amazon: essentially unchanged

Apple: boring incremental improvements

Pretty much exactly reflected in performance and stock price.

Is there some historical evidence of this?

> This assumes a peaceful transition of power, if violence is used instead all bets are off.

You expect the US government to simply step down?

Another reply since you edited your comment to add this:

> I mean you literally asked how these estimates were created?

Honestly, you genuinely seem confused. Where do you think I asked that question?

True. However this doesn’t mean as much as pre-covid when Apple did provide their own estimates.

> I'm confused now.

Agreed.

> You claimed to not really understand who makes these estimates and have no knowledge about how they are formed but it sounds like you do know a tiny bit about guidance?

Where do you think I made this claim?

Apple has declined to provide guidance for some time now.

Sure - but the point is that it is an indication of their sentiment, rather than anything to do with the running of the company.

I.e. it’s a reflection of their position, not Apple’s.

By “est”, you mean estimates made by people who have nothing to do with the company, not by Apple themselves.

> Your list of solutions only work for the former group.

I don’t see why this distinction changes anything. Gluing your head to an old painting is ridiculous and counterproductive either way.

If someone believes the solution to climate change is either fewer humans, or less human activity, there are certainly constructive actions they could take.

No it isn’t. Most apple users rely on apple to protect them from threats.

There are all kinds of people doing serious climate change research, politics, business, etc.

Other options certainly do exist.

This ridiculous and ineffective protest only serves to make people fighting climate change look ridiculous.

That only hurts the movement.

It would be better if these individuals had done nothing at all.

Better yet - if they don’t know what to do about climate change, they can do any paying job, and donate their money to someone who does.

Nobody is saying that the malware check is a mistake.

> Zero effort towards backward-compatibility or longevity, just force users to buy new hardware constantly.

This can't be taken seriously as a comment given that iPhones are typically supported with software upgrades for twice as long as Android phones.

> And honestly the thing I've read is that it's possible for a company to do child labor in the US. And that this actually happens.

You are missing the part where the foreign owned company is caught by the police and investigated by the authorities, and then the crime is reported by the media.

This is exactly what you'd expect in a country where child labor is not accepted.

It's not honest to omit this part. Indeed it's a deliberate deception.

You have nothing to feel ashamed about or to apologize for. The person who replied to you at best appears to have misunderstood what you said.

Your comment didn't come off as kind. At best it just seems like you misunderstood the comment you were replying to.

You said: "...don't tell people who are going through something that you empathize with their struggles, real and painful struggles which you have no share in suffering."

The person you replied to didn't do this.

The companies using child labor were Korean owned and operated, and this issue was detected and investigated by US media and authorities.

@dang - the title in editorialized and misleading. The actual title is: "Korean auto giant Hyundai investigating child labor in its U.S. supply chain"

The article only mentions Korean owned suppliers operating in the US, some directly controlled by Hyundai, which were investigated by Alabama's state Department of Labor, in coordination with federal agencies.