It's a toy example, it's suppose to show that you can be doing N things and then redirect. If you have a normal redirect immediately, just do a 307 or whatever.
Yep, we are BY FAR the fastest signal approach and built in. Datastar is just a set of tools to ture data-* attributes into fine grain reactive expressions. Everything else is a plugin.
> A guy told me that they were told to defend the project.
Might be nice if you can back that up. I see no drshapeless in our Discord logs.
> he only nice thing I got from them was an alternative method to imitate replace-url function using only free-tier features.
So we did give you an alternative to you going against how the framework is suppose to work.
Yeah that tracks with writing that blog. Good luck to ya, Datastar is definitely not a good fit.
You think Datastar CEO is nothing beyond a joke. Oh I get it now, you have literally no idea about this space at all and are just a karma tourist farming for troll points. Sorry to feed you! Was hoping you'd actually engage with the values of the project. That is my fault and I apologize for keeping you fed. I will endure to be better in the future!
I'm the CEO of literally nothing. You clearly do understand anything about this space. I looked through your comments and your behavior and lack of positive dialogue on literally any subject is telling. I'm the same person all the time, have a live video call and stand by your comments. Feel free to expose me, I welcome it.
I get the trolly natural of your response. But please point at anywhere in that five hours any of this about me. What do I get out of this beyond pushing hypermedia forward? Whoever you are mad at it is not me and I hope you can find peace.
I choose in my own fork of my own framework to license new scratch code different from old that was deprecated. I choose to have the new code fund things like a conference is even tuition for one of our dev for college that are antipatterns. I haven't made a dime. Please show me what anyone has taken from anyone.
You are very very right, I guess my real problem is I don't care what they say behind stuff that is a straight out lie. Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what they cheer for.
I'll push back a bit in that I'm still out here helping other devs and making cool stuff so not exactly like them. Happy to have head to head with actual code and some modicum of stakes on the line.
Our community is fine, all this is coming from people so far that haven't actually used Datastar on project at any kind of scale. If this is not the case please show your code and how it effected you directly. Otherwise, it's false outrage that I and the core team care zero about.
as always, my issue is never with how you spend your time. you are a giver of gifts and I wish more people that relied on HTMX stepped up to make it better. in no way should anything be expected of you. How you spend your time is obviously your call. MIT is MIT
The irony is I mirror people's response. The only way to stay sane is to not take yourself seriously. The flagged comments that people take offense are South Park quotes. The general tone police is what is being railed against. Open source tech used to be counter culture to the ibm/microsoft status quo. Clutching your pearls while not understanding licensing nor the tech is the peak of absurdity. I don't even know Carson or DHH politics as I spend time on tech more than drama.
Our Discord is generally a friendly place, but not the nicest. If you can't backup your ideas or defend your code with metrics you are gonna have a bad time. We help those that help yourself. IIRC you were forcefully tell how things should work so it'd be more like HTMX. We tend to go tit for tat so go back and look if we were actively dissuading you from bad ideas.
Sorry to hear that man. It does really sour the ideas of the MIT license especially. It's a social problem and won't be solved by tech. My response now is a pretty hard line, cool... then fork it. Anything softer doesn't matter cause if they really cared they'd already be actively helping.
Thank you so much! The core team does realize there is a silent majority that doesn't get involved in the drama. Sorry you had to make an account to say that. We really do appreciate it!
Ironically Non-profits have to show profits. We don't particularly want devs money as much as Teams/Enterprise to pay for tooling. Inspector make life easier and more stuff (like Stellar is in route).
Datastar author here. I'd really have rather it be about the tech or perf numbers. We pride ourselves on being fast and simple to a silly degree. The drama seems to be about anything but the underlying implementation. It makes me sad but eyeballs and hype so tend to bring people that do care in the long run.
Yes, issues that are years old show me the commitment level. Not a knock against HTMX but a clear sign of priorities. Carson is free to meme all day and talk about other projects. It's very clear where he stands and that's fine
happy to abide, didn't read the guidelines so sorry about that @dang. yes it's quite interesting that we are getting slammed for making plugins in a way that literally any user has access to do own their own. hackernews is a wild ride for sure!