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Reminds me of VC backed framework Meteor that was attempting to do full stack JS and collapsed under its own tech debt.

And what do you do next when it doesn't?

I've heard good things, what would you say is the killer reasons to justify being the nodejs ecosystem vs something more purpose built for ssr like php?

Oh man I forget about their "middleware".

Whoever implemented that has no idea how middleware is supposed to work.

Neville Chamberlain is a perfect example.

took me a week to build a poker bot in 2006 that earned me $1000 a week during college, and that was self imposed because I didn't want to raise any flags.

It was based on a world of warcraft bot that I modified, and I learned a lot during the process.

What you call wasted mechanical work I call the foundations of a career that changed my life.

Take away the AI and this guy has nothing but an idea. An old idea that has already been done to death, and none of the skills required to actually implement it and maintain it.

You might not like writing code, but that is the job no matter how many natural language layers you put on top of it.

Vercel is the primary driver of react SSR / server components, which has also led to an explosion of complexity in react and has made it less useful as a composable library imo.

The last truly useful react feature for me was error boundaries in React 16 (2017?) and I think hooks was react 16 too?

These days if I need ui components for an existing SSR app I just use web components or lightweight libs like mithril.

running nextjs in docker is notoriously bug prone, there are multiple GH issues about this with no real resolution

the official recommendation we got was to just run it on vercel

I would go as far to say that nextjs is not self-hostable in its current state if you expect high traffic and low latency.

- fragile under load and very difficult to debug SSR issues

- inconsistent behavior between hosted and self hosted versions of the same code

- horrible build times, like laughably bad multi-minute builds for trivial code bases

- crappy directory based routing system with lots of weird gotchas

- schizo identity JAMstack -> serverless -> ssr -> now its microvms + ai

- multiple hilariously long running GH issues where the dev team is thrashing around trying to debug their own black box framework

- "framework" that barely provides any of the primitives necessary to build web apps

- major breaking changes around core features like routing that require painful migrations

- general sloppiness, churn, and insecurity that comes from being part of the nodejs ecosystem

Thats not even getting into all of the shady patterns vercel uses to lock you into their overpriced hosting.

I've been a part of multiple teams that decided to build apps using NextJS, and while the FE is not my responsibility I typically got pulled in to help troubleshoot random issues. It was a complete waste of time in almost every case, and in one case resulted in the entire FE team being let go because they were unable to ship anything on time.

More, they are part of the foundation.

Vercel being involved is a huge red flag.

NextJS is a pile of garbage, and their platform is absurdly expensive and leans heavily on vendor lock in.

Hide Sidebar?

Honestly it sounds like you are missing the point while simultaneously using a bad password manager.

I completely withdrew from the US market last Nov 5th.

It's plainly obvious where all of this is going.

Remind me again how the American slaves were freed?

My kind?

Genuinely curious what kind of generalization you are making.

i find the chirpy affirmative tone of claude to be rage inducing

It's a fundamental failing of trying to use a statistical approximation of human language to generate code.

You can't fix it.

you havent needed ai to build this for decades.

these random posts are so tiring: “i used ai to make something college freshmen were building in their dorm rooms 20 years ago”

Many people in this forum mistakenly think that violence isn’t a historically efficient way to solve political problems.

3. Saying no

LLMs will gladly go along with bad ideas that any reasonable dev would shoot down.

its called willpower, and you have to develop it over time if you dont have any

that doesnt make you nearly as special as you think

Anyone remember the subprime crisis?

who cares if libertarians approve?

they are one of the most ideologically inconsistent groups i can think of besides the hardcore maga crowd.

Not a surprise to anyone trying to fundraise outside the AI space.

AI sucked the air out of the room for almost no return, the crash is going to be something to behold.

Damage is already done.

It takes decades to build consumer trust, and one stupid MBA driven idea to ruin it.

Still living in the 80's?

Seems like you are the one with an outdated model of how money works.

Over the last couple decades it has been moving up at an ever increasing rate instead of down.

And how many of those does Meta have existing revenue and distribution model for?

Its pretty safe to assume that the primary driver of this is data hoovering for selling ads, everything else is just PR spin from the Meta thinktanks.

Its hilarious to me how people in these comments still give Meta the benefit of the doubt and think the core feature of this is anything other than blatant data harvesting.