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thulecitizen··on Hard negotiations: why a softer approach yields better outcomes
If you want to share: what were some insights you gained from the book?

I considered reading it, but then I read a review that says that although it’s useful, it presents a few quite manipulative tactics:

“A lot of what affects how much you enjoy these books is, again, how self aware you are or how much consideration you've given to how you talk to people and the best way to get what you want from others. If you already easily have any easy time convincing people, or have thought about it and are self aware of how you behave and talk to others then I don't think any of these things are going to be surprising or helpful but if you haven't ever actually considered the way you interact with people then maybe this will be an eye opening book for you. Personally I think I've always been a little manipulative so I wasn't all that impressed. The writing was average also so the books clear and easy to read but I wasn't impressed by the writing either.”

Source: https://www.goodreads.com/review/1841965174/

thulecitizen··on The End of Economic Growth? Unintended Consequences of a Declining Population [pdf]
What current trends are you talking about here?
thulecitizen··on The End of Economic Growth? Unintended Consequences of a Declining Population [pdf]
For me this claim that the world is only getting better has largely been debunked as junk science:

“ What Roser’s numbers actually reveal is that the world went from a situation where most of humanity had no need of money at all to one where today most of humanity struggles to survive on extremely small amounts of money. The graph casts this as a decline in poverty, but in reality what was going on was a process of dispossession that bulldozed people into the capitalist labour system, during the enclosure movements in Europe and the colonisation of the global south.” [1]

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/29/bill-g...

thulecitizen··on The End of Economic Growth? Unintended Consequences of a Declining Population [pdf]
I don’t think I 100% understand what you mean by population decline? Do you mean planned parenthood/contraception? In other words: what are some of the strategies you are in favor of to make this decline happen?
thulecitizen··on Decentralize Messaging
Yes, no deletes. Since there is no company in the middle, the GDPR rules don't apply to this P2P network, so it isn't an issue legally (in Europe).

This is something that will probably take some puzzling to get to a sustainable mechanism. The strategy I've heard talked about most often is to append metadata that marks it as 'deleted', so when things populate or 'gossip' further, it won't show up in the user interface. Instead it's labeled as 'archived' or 'deleted', or has a link to it's replacement.

thulecitizen··on Not for sale: Luxury groups ponder ways to get rid of their unsold inventory
+1

Also, so much of the clothing industry is so unsustainable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaGp5_Sfbss

Not like tech is any different: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeMlkGrYxJw

thulecitizen··on State of Independent SaaS [pdf]
Dear dang, please could you unflag my comment?

I am up for a debate, and I am happy to be shown other perspectives. Yet flagging my comment seems to be the easiest way to scrub something you don't like, while avoiding constructive debate. It seems to me that you are labeling my writing as starting an 'ideological flamewar', when I would argue I back up my arguments with leading research/references.

I just replied to another comment below, with more links: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22153575

When I googled ‘flamewar’, wikipedia defines it as:

"a flame war is a series of flame posts or messages in a thread that are considered derogatory in nature or are completely off-topic"

I am making connections that I think are worthwhile. They might seem overly critical and negative to those who are not familiar with the arguments. Do you want to limit connections you don’t make yourself, and discard them as ‘off-topic’ because you aren’t familiar with the research?

That sounds a bit like cherry-picking to me.

I don’t understand how constructive critique like this can be flagged, and my comment muted/hidden. Are we not all humans typing away at our keyboards here? Is your perspective really the ‘right’ or only useful perspective?

The only reason I can think of for you and others to flag my comment is if my comments are getting in the way of you or others in Silicon Valley from charging your rents? Is it that you see some truth in what I share that you might not be comfortable with?

thulecitizen··on State of Independent SaaS [pdf]
> Must there always be an issue when the data doesn't suit a worldview? Why compromise a survey 's integrity with your own bias?

Hello. Might I remind you of the Global North's historic and continued plundering of the Global South (developing countries)?

Or should we forget about all of that?

> It costs virtually $0 these days to start a SaaS company

Yes, if you have a big cultural inheritance (which was itself plundered and stolen and appropriated from other countries). Oh yes, and you need a big trust fund and upper class parents, or at the least a pedagogical mentor who stimulates you, nourishes your curiosity.

By saying this you are showing me the holy ground you are standing on. There are many hands who touch your life every day: feeding you, making your clothes, your electronics, etc. Check out the True Cost (2015): https://youtu.be/OaGp5_Sfbss?t=32, or 'Steve Jobs: The Man In The Machine': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhWKxtsYrJE

Two key areas one can focus on: 1) imperial intellectual property machine - the work of Ruth Okediji is revealing with this: http://www.commonlii.org/sg/journals/SGJlIntCompLaw/2003/14....

and 2) Corporatist/institutionalized plundering since the colonial era: https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/britain-stole-45-t...

Please would you consider these and try to understand their implications on today's reality?

thulecitizen··on Web of Documents (2019)
> We don’t have a Web of Documents anymore. These days, the WWW is mostly a Web of Applications.

Yes! It's 'SaaSS' - as defined by Stallman, not 'SaaS'.

"On the Internet, proprietary software isn't the only way to lose your freedom. Service as a Software Substitute, or SaaSS, is another way to give someone else power over your computing.

The basic point is, you can have control over a program someone else wrote (if it's free), but you can never have control over a service someone else runs, so never use a service where in principle a program would do.

SaaSS means using a service implemented by someone else as a substitute for running your copy of a program. The term is ours; articles and ads won't use it, and they won't tell you whether a service is SaaSS. Instead they will probably use the vague and distracting term “cloud”, which lumps SaaSS together with various other practices, some abusive and some ok. With the explanation and examples in this page, you can tell whether a service is SaaSS."

Source: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-s...

thulecitizen··on Web of Documents (2019)
> you are clicking around for information

Kind of like when I go for a walk in a forest that I haven't been to. A forest with many possible paths.

Whenever I hit a fork or a junction, I go to the places that seem most interesting. I say to myself: "Oooh it looks like there's a cozy lake over there", or "over there, there's a little river that I can jump over, or play with creating a temporary dam".

If I get lost I can walk back (click the back button) and change my choices, or decide to just walk the same way back/go home (stop reading).

thulecitizen··on How housing became the world’s biggest asset class
The documentary Push shows this scary reality beautifully: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iLWpuZrd-I
thulecitizen··on Secretive Surveillance Company Is Selling Cops Cameras Hidden in Gravestones
> anybody trying to thwart them is either against security or a criminal

Please could you tell me what you read in this article?

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/britain-stole-45-t...

thulecitizen··on Secretive Surveillance Company Is Selling Cops Cameras Hidden in Gravestones
Am I the only one who thinks that in the future we might have with us at all times some sort of complex infrared video-camera-blocking tech, together with a sound jammer?
thulecitizen··on Haters
Yes, you caught her. Well done! Will you send your address so I can send you your trophy?
thulecitizen··on Haters
Bullllshit.

"Greta Thunberg - January 11 at 7:36 PM:

Some people have been asking who manages this page. First of all, since last spring I only use Facebook to repost what I write on my Twitter and Instagram accounts.

Since I have chosen not to be on Facebook personally ( I tried early on but decided it wasn’t for me) I use my father Svantes account to repost content, because you need an account to moderate a Facebook page. The rest that is shared on Facebook is reposted from Twitter and Instagram by the guy who founded the Greta Thunberg Facebook page long before I knew it existed. His name is Adarsh Prathap and he lives in India. Since a lot of people thought it was my official page in the beginning I asked if I could co-manage it and he said yes.

All texts posted on my Facebook page has of course been written by me, just like everything else."

Source: https://www.facebook.com/gretathunbergsweden/posts/103195633...

thulecitizen··on The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)
Your keyboard is an input device. That is what I am talking about. I am saying that with a Remote Access Trojan, they can do much more than access your mic or webcam.

"What is a RAT (remote access Trojan)?

A remote access Trojan (RAT) is a malware program that includes a back door for administrative control over the target computer. RATs are usually downloaded invisibly with a user-requested program -- such as a game -- or sent as an email attachment. Once the host system is compromised, the intruder may use it to distribute RATs to other vulnerable computers and establish a botnet.

Because a RAT enables administrative control, it makes it possible for the intruder to do just about anything on the targeted computer, including:

- Deleting, downloading or altering files and file systems.

- Monitoring user behavior through keyloggers or other spyware.

- Accessing confidential information, such as credit card and social security numbers.

- Taking screenshots.

- Distributing viruses and other malware.

- Formatting drives."

Source: https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/RAT-remote-...

thulecitizen··on The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)
To me this is an answer. I think somehow you're not understanding what I am implying.

These guides I linked to are there because when the software is being installed, it asks for these guides to be applied, to make the apps work. The modifications added to the cracked applications by the crackers take them off Apple's trusted developers list. So the only way to get some of them to work is to disable SIP and GateKeeper. This move then makes the user's computer vulnerable to all malware, because most forget to turn them back on. They also often don't know about the importance of these security features in the first place.

I am not concerned for your safety - I trust you will be safe. I am scared for the user I described above.

I hope this make it clearer.

I won't bother replying to more of your messages until you can show that you've actually tried this all out on a VM, because otherwise we just won't be talking about the same thing.

thulecitizen··on Haters
> these people are way too interested in what other people are doing

oh yes, blame them! the lazy buggers! [1][2]

[1] https://medium.com/@dr_eprice/laziness-does-not-exist-3af27e...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-2TEwdRnX0

edit: avoid Medium paywall on [1] = http://archive.is/ksROw

thulecitizen··on The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)
Both 'appked' and 'macbed' websites have guides for disabling both Gatekeepr and SIP (now they are derivative websites because the domains keep getting banned/confiscated):

macappdownload dot com slash fix-damaged-app-message

macappdownload dot com slash how-to-disable-system-integrity-protection-in-macos

These guides are all over their websites, especially at the download stage, where there is a short list of 'download instructions' with a link to these guides.

A while back I read someone saying that these websites are owned by a Russian hacker network. Touch at your own risk.

thulecitizen··on The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)
It's not just about webcams or recording your microphone. That's just the tip of the iceberg.
thulecitizen··on The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)
Yep. So if you're in the Netherlands, click here: https://www.vpro.nl/programmas/3lab/rats-en-slaves

For some reason they blocked it in the Netherlands. But if you're trying to watch it from outside of the Netherlands, it works great. I tried with a VPN.

thulecitizen··on For tech-weary Midwest farmers, 40-year-old tractors now a hot commodity
Thanks a lot!
thulecitizen··on For tech-weary Midwest farmers, 40-year-old tractors now a hot commodity
> Here's a neat idea: maybe regulating software engineering like other engineering disciplines is actually overdue? Yet at the same time, failure rate will never be zero.

Please could you describe this more? I’m intrigued.

I don’t know anything about this and what systems or mechanisms are used to regulate engineering, so any links or simple explanations are appreciated!

thulecitizen··on White House Veterans Helped Gulf Monarchy Build Secret Surveillance Unit
Thanks for the link to Darknet Diaries! It was new to me
thulecitizen··on A New Aristocracy: Yale Law School Commencement Address (2015) [pdf]
This. These folks are helping to shape new laws that set precedent for every other case. For example: the wealthiest now pay historically low tax rates [1][2]

[1] https://twitter.com/DLeonhardt/status/1181004566088814594

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/06/opinion/incom...

thulecitizen··on Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (2017)
I don’t think it’s smartphones, I think it’s the fact that the entire ecosystem of our most used apps is a walled garden. Our entire experience is made up of proprietary corporate apps. We have little choice to change or create our own information flows - everything is dictated by hidden code/algorithms. If I can’t see the code, I am not the one doing the controlling, I am being controlled. The most detrimental app we all use - banking and money creation, is the most hidden and unchallenged one so far. We’re still using the legacy Industrial Age money and banking system.

I think it’s time that we evolve to a more compassionate world.

To help build the distributed, cooperative and open source economy check out The MetaCurrency Project (Ceptr, Holochain), Secure Scuttlebutt and Manyverse, DAT, Loomio, CoBudget and others

What does the ‘More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know is Possible’ (Charles Eisenstein) look like to you?

Does having a closed source system for our communication, banking and governance tools help keep the ‘smartest’ people at the helm, or is this grandiosity and immature magician energy? Does it create an oppressor, victim and savior triangle?

thulecitizen··on Plastics recycling with microbes and worms is further away than we think (2018)
There’s even two more R’s now:

refuse

reduce

reuse (+repair)

recycle

rot

thulecitizen··on IPFS, Again
Yeah I think we should, and storing and forwarding is exactly what Holochain does. I think there are different use cases for different tasks. I really like, and use, Scuttlebutt and DAT - which also store and forward data.

Scuttlebutt has been awesome for me to see that a social network can be completely hosted by it’s users.

I think Holochain and Ceptr are here to help us evolve how we work together and do our accounting.

What I love about Holochain's pattern is that it essentially provides a fully distributed, immutable and peer-to-peer crypto accounting framework for barter transactions/sharing work and resources. It does not focus on creating and managing artificially scarce coins (as is the case in the current financial system, and also in Blockchain). It is trying to show us that we are using Industrial Age tools (interest-bearing-debt national currencies), and that instead we could focus on creating peer-to-peer Information Age currencies [1].

Holochain's pattern enables communities to make their own judgements on what value something holds and how they want to account for it. It allows us to build that into a flow language - a currency. This means instead of using a fiat 'medium of exchange' backed by US imperialism and it's military might/control [2] - we create, redeem and destroy currencies based on asset-backed mutual-credit principles that mimic the way Mother Nature works. I think I read somewhere that today over 90% of money in the money system is speculative, and interest-bearing monopoly debt-money has no roots in the real world.

An example of a mutual credit currency could be a currency for seats on a train. When I buy a ticket, my ticket is tied to a certain seat on the train. If I went to Mars, my ticket would be worthless. The ticket is only valuable because the ticket is tied to the train system - to one of the seats available. This makes it asset-backed. Another example would be farmers being able to pre-sell their produce locally, without going through expensive middlemen. They can create currencies that represent their produce (the asset).

The MetaCurrency Project is bringing us a into a world where we have more agency when interacting with the world, using evolve-able peer to peer protocols that can be forked and re-forked, again and again, to better meet the needs of it's users.

They are giving us the tools to see the world with new eyes, and to allow multiple perspectives - instead of one rigid, centrally enforced truth.

Moving towards using mutual credit systems, together with reputation currencies (imagine your ratings on Uber, eBay etc. was hosted by your peer-to-peer community), allows you to build trust together in a way, un-intermediated or hindered by a corporate app and UI. These reputation currencies already exist, yet are contained and held hostage by our current paradigm. Other examples of reputation currencies I can think of are ‘FairTrade’ or ‘Organic’ labeling.

Holochain is BitTorrent + Git + Cryptographic Signatures + Peer Validation + Gossip [3] - making it agent centric instead of data centric. It is not anymore about the database in the middle, but about the relationships between peers and their balances/interactions, and the agreements we make together on what actions we are allowed to take in our different apps and networks. Together we can see and improve the app logic and I can bridge between my apps, as I now have complete control over my own data [4].

HoloREA is a project that is using Holochain to build a modular, cooperative and transparent economic supply chain framework. It uses the Resource Event Agent accounting model to enable users to steward and follow flows of economic actions. These relationships are today tightly controlled in corporations. HoloREA aims to create a cooperative web of interactive flows of people, actions and resources.

Essentially, the vision is to reclaim The Commons and give us better tools to steward the world together more peacefully and compassionately.

If you’re interested in this paradigm, a few keywords I've found useful: Protocol / Open Cooperativism (currently we have Platform / Surveillance Capitalism), mutual credit, myth of barter, buddhist economics, social darwinism.

I also like the work of Elinor Ostrom, Bernard Lietaer, David Graeber, Douglas Rushkoff (Life Inc.), Charles Eisenstein, E.F. Schumacher, Silvia Federici, Mariana Mazzucato and Anand Giridharadas.

For technical material: http://ceptr.org

Footnotes/links: [1] https://prezi.com/xmzld_-wayho/new-economy-new-wealth/

[2] “Nixon floated the dollar in order to pay for the cost of a war in which, during the period of 1970–1972 alone, he ordered more than four million tons of explosives and incendiaries dropped on cities and villages across Indochina—causing one senator to dub him “the greatest bomber of all time.”7 The debt crisis was a direct result of the need to pay for the bombs, or, to be more precise, the vast military infrastructure required to deliver them. This was what was causing such an enormous strain on the U.S. gold reserves. Many hold that by floating the dollar, Nixon converted the U.S. currency into pure “fiat money”—mere pieces of paper, intrinsically worthless, that were treated as money only because the United States government insisted that they should be. In that case, one could well argue that U.S. military power was now the only thing backing up the currency. In a certain sense this is true, but the notion of “fiat money” assumes that money really “was” gold in the first place. Really we are dealing with another variation of credit money.” — David Graeber: ‘Debt: The First 5000 Years’

[3] https://holo.host/faq/what-is-holochain/

[4] https://medium.com/holochain/holochain-reinventing-applicati...

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