timacles

You will NEVER be a good to great writer if you use AI to seed your writing and then edit it.

_Everything_ AI generates, is generalized slop. All of your ideas will be boring and derivative. Mediocre writers will be improved, but the best would only have their ability to think dulled.

Just think through it from the perspective that AI is generating art for you instead of writing. What would all art look like if good artists used it for ideas and "edited" it? It would look like generic, derivative shit. A perpetual crutch that the person can never abandon.

hard to believe anyone who writes something this overwhelmingly positive.

I use a ton of AI, it writes a shit load of code for me, and I eventually get good results.

Its also goes off on ridiculous tangents, implements things i dont want, over engineers almost everything. Makes large code bases convoluted and unreadable. Yes humans also do that, LLMs do it a lot faster.

> Now, with AI coding, I can implement any decent sized feature, exactly how I want, in a few hours and it's all polished and ready, all edge cases handled.

No way a human wrote that, sounds like a late night TV advertisement.

LLMs can’t trade effectively. there is too much data and A moves too fast and there’s too much context. A small mistake would destroy an account.

This does not get to the core of it, LLMs are not equivalent to cars.

All of your analogies (in other posts) discount that: - LLMs are not deterministic - they do not produce high quality/expert level output. - They are not easy to control consistently.

Once again, and i mean this in the nicest way possible. You do not sound like you understand how things operate at an expert level of engineering. I do not know of any senior engineer who thinks LLMs can consistently produce quality output.

You are way too invested in your argument and refusing to see other perspectives

I dont know how you can work in this discipline, use AI, and also ask that question.

almost every developer i know is fully aware, we are degrading every aspect of our skills.

The code writing, code reviewing, code understanding.

The more "time" passes and the more the code base grows, the more disconnected we become.

> I think it's like 2000 calories in a single burger

that would be pretty cool, you can just get your entire day's calories from one burger

I just cant imagine anything vibe coded being maintained for more than a few months.

The moment random bugs start hitting and fixing the bugs starts breaking other things, no one is going to want to contribute.

Its all going to devolve into a slop fest that takes more and more effort to make incremental progress

Class war started about 15 years ago post 2007 financial crisis.

The banks and those who control them all knew where we are headed, so they got a little head start destabilizing democracy.

Once us working class get a grasp of the actual situation, we are going to be so deep in the hole, fighting back is going to be quite difficult when the "asset owners" own and control the majority of the worlds resources, all media, forms of communication, AI, technology infrastructure, mass surveillance. You name it, and they have already made massive efforts to make sure they own it.

A rich people only economy.

We are in a different phase of Capitalism, real interest rates will be kept low mechanically. Nominal Inflation rate will always be lied about. Bonds holders will lose value by design.

The governments and central banks across the world have no other choice. Corporations and big money have robbed our world of capital and are now changing the game to pull up the ladder behind them

There are no "best" prompts. Its a random BS generation machine that you can at times direct enough to get stuff done for you. The output will almost always have varying levels of BS that you have to clean up with various levels of effort.

Someone please put RAM into Maslow's hierarchy of needs

pretty sure anyone doing "real" work nowadays does it like this. The guys vibe coding in a professional setting are just frauds and the slop will catch up to them. Maybe. Its possible we're just headed to a world where the quality of all software is going to nose dive in 6 months to a year

And what, potentially make things easier for a competitor? Not in capitalism sir

This is literally the American way.

Everyone does this at every level, from Execs down to middle managers, for every possible metric.

well i've got some bad news, that era has now entered its maximum power phase. Our government has literally been systematically deconstructed to become unable to govern.

What is your motivation? What you are doing is very impressive for sure, but the longer term life of this project seems incertain to me. While you might be able to accomplish your goal of production readyness, you'll only have version 1.0 at that point.

Its unlikely an AI written project is one which people will want to maintain even if it "works", which means AI has to maintain it. Maintaining a code base of a production database is going to continue costing 100s of thousands, if its even possible at all with AI. Its also unlikely to find users even if its almost perfect, because a bug in a database is not something users can accept.

Postgres is postgres because its like 30 years old and battle tested. Sure its missing some modern features, but its incredibly stable, which is part of its popularity.

When it tips the other way, we will be entering the economic dark ages, exactly proportional to how long we’ve been kicking this can down the road, which is likely since 2007 at least.

The only solution that will come is from large swaths of the words population to be rapidly reduced, from a garden variety of natural disasters

Out country is ran by bunch of Lionel Hutz clones

Would this apply to software that runs oil refinery plants, or video games or an fighter jet flight stabilization systems?

Surely there is more to software than CRUD apps

No, the "essence" of engineering is having a cohesive vision for a larger plan.

No quality large scale project can exist without it. And any seasoned engineer should understand by now that no SOTA LLM can produce quality engineering at scale.

I’m thinking any human made system implies corruption

The us military has been a wealth transfer mechanism for decades.

You have tactics and strategy mixed up. Killing Iran leadership was a tactical success. Continually shooting long range missiles into a giant country is a strategic failure.

Not really a conspiracy theory, it’s just an indicator of the underlying issues either the global economy. Yeah it’s been red for decades, it just shows there are segment of the world economy that are under high stress.

Difference is US now has its own issues which just makes the overall situation even more fragile.

No one knows for how long or what happens next, but you can’t look at things and think, eh it’s just the way it is. Things are a certain way until they’re not

All small business marketing material now looks exactly the same.

LLMs produce an extremely small range of artistic expression, and its kind of ironic, that while it certainly looks functionally good. It immediately becomes noise because everything looks identical.

So companies are going to have to hire creatives again, in order to stand out, and be "creative"

We as humans have to accept that systems operating on this scale have no other options than kicking the can down the road.

Like, throw the global economy into a 5-10 year depression is not an option, despite the fact that clearly it is what the economy needs in terms of a reset.

There is a very real possibility going down that path could cause an irreversible deflation spiral.

So the safer option must be chosen even if it creates mass wealth inequality and a different upwards inflation spiral which at least they can control

He’s like the guy from the Green Mile

“I’m tired, boss”

It’s just optimized for generating text and evoking emotional responses rather than getting a point across.

A good writer says what needs to be said and no more, AI is on the other side of the spectrum, it just needs to say things just to say things