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Dart is still better lang than JS and AngualarDart offers much better dev experience compared to React and Angular + TS (I tried all of them). Big Google apps (Ads UI) are written in Dart. Try it out and make your own opinion https://webdev.dartlang.org/angular/

New life will come to Dart when fast Dart to JS compiler (so called DDC) will be released.

sorry without Docker support in 2017 WSL is no go for me

Good for you - I refuse to use laptop for dev since I like multi-monitor env - and this is much easier and cheaper on desktop.

On the other hand how often you do real work without AC ?

I don't get why developers even bother - just don't use Windows as dev OS - if you really need windows use it in VirtualBox - I spent years as .NET dev on Linux desktop that way. Recently tried otherwise with docker for windows and one day after some magical windows update HyperV just killed my docker VM. For me Windows is just not reliable enough to be dev machine primary OS - it's not worth my time.

In a way Balmer was right -"Cancer" is eating Windows :)

Can't stop giggle.

Android is Linux on mobile and ChromeOS is linux on desktop

requestDevice needs user accept as far as I can see. What's the problem here ?

https://webbluetoothcg.github.io/web-bluetooth/#dom-bluetoot...

OK Google is more powerful than ever before but eg. Google docs are not "winning" - docs are not forcing you to use blessed OSes (you can use docs from Firefox) and I'm still more afraid of Windows domination since it's still desktop where you create real content than Android which is basically dumb multimedia player and browser.

Always wondered how on earth anyone can be pleased with Finder. Compared to Nautilus it's just crap. Just opinion.

IntelliJ db browser is nice as well. You can connect to all mainstream DBs including MS SQL.

I pay 3.34 EUR/per user per month. I use Gmail in my company domain - which is IMHO superior to outlook because of tags, which are more expressive than outlook folders. I use apps (some of them not available on Office365 at all - like forms/surveys, websites), calendar synced with mobile, google drive and group conference in hangouts with screen sharing (not working in Office365 in skype on linux - no good app for that)

Since use mostly linux - desktop version of Office365 is useless for me.

To sum it up: one third Office price - no functionality lose for me and some functions not available in Office at all.

We are small dev shop - Google suite is cheaper, is good enough and has good integration with paid Gmail.

Dart 1.21 is out today too - with generic methods support news.dartlang.org

Aren't linux distros good enough in hdpi support these days?

"... Unfortunately Internet Explorer ..."

Every piece of reality has its own IE - Unfortunately.

This is why I use Dart. When you work at small software house doing plenty of LOB apps, you don't waste customer paid time on manual tree shaking.

their reasoning was AFAIK - lang needs to be C#, Java like to reach mainstream web devs

And that's way I feel much more comfortable in Dart ecosystem:

- sane SDK and sane - not surprising - lang without this hell

- jquery like functionality built in

- one package manager and package repository

- can be used on server as well

- nice tooling (WebStorm-IntelliJ, VisualStudio Code)

Since TS is superset of JS it has all it's flaws - we need different lang compiled to JS (like Dart) not a mockup.

some legacy Windows server stuff - part of this could be rewritten to Linux/Go/whatever_server_lang just team mates are not willing to leave their comfortable VS env. if not provided with decent IDE/debugger

I'm using C# mainly because of debugger integration in Visual Studio.

Make decent visual debugger and devs will come.

JS interop backed by Dart Team works pretty well for me: https://pub.dartlang.org/packages/js

I was always wondering why HN crowd is ok with TS and so prejudiced against Dart - Dart has NG2, await async in older browsers and good tooling (webstorm, vscode) and much saner package system. When doing lot of small web apps - it's easier to mantain.

Desktop office is not real time - it's synced and since office web sucks compared to gDocs - gDocs win new markets.

source? ...or it's just pointless trolling ?

In theory...in reality when it comes to Apple HN crowd has double standards (eg. see snarky comment on "closing date" at top and try to imagine such a comment on Apple not being downvoted here)

[edit typos] This should be whole blog post, but I will try to show most important points from top of my head. I do compare my exp using TS with VScode and Dart IntelliJ.

Dart analyzer is usually able to show more common mistakes even if you are not heavy type user. Shorter time to find simple typo.

It's easier to start debugging and it's more reliable. This could be IntelliJ itself.

code in Dart is shorter for small apps since it has build in SDK - no need to external libs. It's easier to back to this code after few weeks - easier to mantain. Also time to start from scratch is shorter

Pub (external libs) is way superior to what we have in TS world

One library importing mechanism which doesn't confuse me

I'm not afraid if lib x confilts with lib y

await async works on non ES6 browsers - no wired settings in main config file!

There is one thing better in TS which I like very much - how interfaces can be aplied to decoded Map

I tried both TS and Dart and Dart has just way better developer exp. especially when using IntelliJ and doing lot of small apps which have to be mantained.

No screesharing though - seems like simple webview over web.skype.com

Always admire 'go f#=%# yourself' statement expressed in a polite way