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now someone suing MS for patent infringement for using Linux - would make me giggle

or even better Dartlang is't optionally typed - for both sides of the fence

I gave up setting up my mac for Docker. It's just way easier to set up another dev machine with Linux since it can be used as dev machine these days.

yea there are many different tactics to tackle this issue - still default behaviour is confusing at best - bad design at worst.

just because I say 'this' is broken, it doesn't mean I don't understand how it works.

'this' in JS is misleading and confusing - IMHO it's broken design

>On this tangent about Dart, I'm happy that Chrome people prevailed

I'm not. We are sentenced for another 20+ yrs for lang with broken 'this' pointer

TL;DR Mozilla is complaining because MS is changing default browser to EDGE

It's Single Page Application used mostly from customer's intranet - currently around 1.6MB uncompressed (js version) - only initial page load is painful and takes around 2.3 sec from internet (on my decent DSL). But since it's just work tool they don't care about page loads that much as they do about feature completness. I'm using Polymer-Dart on frontned + Dropwizard on backend (these days I would use Dart on the server side too, but when I was starting it wasn't mature enough). Overall I'm pretty happy with this tech except I hoped for faster Web Components adoption (better Polymer support for non-Chrome)

Thanks for sharing!

My Dart thingy is commercial NDA bla bla bla - so the only thing I can say it's more than 20K LOC. I was always afraid that such a big app couldn't be mantained in lang without proper IDE on non-windows (for Dart I'm using Dart's team Eclipse plugin and/or Webstorm plugin).

In my case I'm just too lazy to code in lang without lexical this and as I understand JS is TS subset, so you still can shot yourself in the foot really easy, also from what I hear JS/TS is better suited for small projects whereas Dart shines when project gets bigger (tree shaking, proper SDK) and perf really matters. On the con side: I would love Dart had as good IDE/plugin as TS has on Windows (Visual Studio).

Anyone has Dart vs TS comparison ? I'm heavy Dart user - interested hearing someone having experience in both.

I think there's plenty of room for some *NIX laptops below OSX pricepoint - just not sure it's this one

Can't see how is React winning here - FLUX won already but in new HTML's web component era React will be even less relevant. There will be no need for big frameworks since apps could be build from high level components.

Will Apple ship Swift as OS on Linux this year as they promised ?

for me - they should put more effort in suporting Dartlang and Golang on GAE (web debugger/IDE) instead of Java8

MS is (again) new cool kid. Rainbows and unicorns.

Deploying Linux apps on Windows Server is easier these days (Hyper-V).

If you really need decent POSIX OS on Windows just use virtualiztion.

intellisense like in https://dartpad.dartlang.org/ would be nice

Connecting....

Dart was designed to be be easy transpiled to JS. It's not possibile with Golang by design AFAIK.

Also golang is not 'C-like' syntax lang so I doubt it would get any traction among mainstream devs (java,c,c#,js).

Following your logic, one could argue that Google should drop Go and use only Dart since it's client and server since day 1. Both positions are silly IMHO.

snarky comments shows that we can't have fully open source and much better lang than JS (perf, sdk, lexical this, tooling, IDE) replacing JS because of...google ressentiment

IntelliJ is better on Unix than Monodevelop - there is still no end to end story for *nix developers backed by MS (compared to something modern like Dartlang)

WP is dead because of it's restrictions (eg. on WP you can't even install Webkit/Blink based browser)

and that's fucking stupid - because web browsers can't compete on iOS

"Actually, MS recently open-sourced the .NET framework (".NET Core")"

I know that. My point is you go to dartlang.org and get the IDE with SDK with single download for Mac, Linux or Windows and use it now.

With .NET you can't do the same now on non-Windows (you can use Mono but it's not MS project) Dart is designed to do webdev and .NET isn't

nice, but it's way easier in Dart and if you want to develop Chrome Packaged App there is even project template for this in DartEditor

"These things are changing,"

There is still no end to end story for dev on Linux/Mac with MS backed tools (Mono is not .NET).

"and I think that will be the end (finally) of Java."

just day after Google will take C# as main dev lang for Android...

IMHO It's more likely that Dart will become new Android's main lang.

Without bignum it's hard to implement Decimal

With newer Windows servers you can use HyperV to run *nix apps

I think "firefox is slow" partialy comes from people using css3 animations eg. this http://bartaz.github.io/impress.js/#/bored works smooth on my MBP as well as on my Ubuntu desktop whereas seems sluggish on FF (on both platforms)

I hope it doesn't mean: "we will copy but we will not share"