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On DEC systems, I programmed using FORTRAN, BLISS, MACRO and (on GiGi and RSTS/E) in BASIC for a long time.. then one day the Bell Labs spinoff I worked for bought a Whitesmith’s C license for the VAXcluster (for probably oodles of money) and I was transferred into a group headed by the guy who wrote UNIX’s malloc implementation a long time before I came along. He hated VMS as much as I hated C. He couldn’t use UNIX because it only ran on dogshit computers. I couldn’t use FORTRAN because someone read a book that said C was cool. We all carried around our K&R pamphlet books and the Whitesmith’s manual (which the Indian workers would mispronounce with three syllables lol). The compiler had all kinds of issues on VMS. Eventually, DEC released VAX-11 C (still have my little 5x7” orange book) and that was enough to make me give up (the truly wonderful) VAX FORTRAN and MACRO/BLISS compilers. My home setup (it was not common for anyone to have home setups then, even programmers) was all assembler, FORTH, Pascal and BASIC but with the shift to C at work, I finally sold a kidney and bought Lattice C and later Aztec C and after moving to the Mac (as I sealed my Amigas into the boxes in the garage where they remain to this day), MPW C, THINK C and CodeWarrior C, MS Visual C, before Yggdrasil Linux…GNU C, then GNU Objective C and now (needle scratch silence) Swift? All started with Whitesmith’s C…
I may have added some of that which wasn’t in TFA but is in my lived experience ;)
I do hope that after DOGE goes away, Trump goes back to supporting his base with respect to maintaining VA staffing and restricting H1B visas, especially after the R&D tax credit debacle cost so many tech jobs and the true potential for LLMs are being realized to increase productivity at all levels (as opposed to the halving the workforce at the bottom).
The Pentagon has had to deal with once-trusted contractors going off the rails before and they will have to deal with it again. There are two key issues: what does the USA need from SpaceX to meet contracted Defense needs and what are the new national security risks associated with current SpaceX operations under the staff that's loyal to this guy. Will the military take control while the Pentagon figures out how to transfer permanent control to trusted parties and the bean counters resolve the accounting?
As for how we’re going to reign in the budget, they’ll likely turn to Regan-era austerity initiatives at some point. Come get your 10lb block of cheese…
As for DOGE, Trump has a couple options. He can shut it down and blame Musk, or he can let it keep running against the advice of his team. After DOGE is gone, they will be able to get a warrant and start looking for copies of the data. The first place to look is X.
At the other extreme you have Swift which is not Good (as opposed to no good) until V5 which is now obsoleted by V6. Do we all know how screwed Apple is when it comes to LLM training coverage of Swift 5 or 6? Short of their own codebase (and even then), where are they going to get enough training data to help all the Vibe Coders and novices? Could take years to resolve this.
Weird future, eh? So FORTH may not be "fashionable" but it is hella fun and very good in a number of dimensions. With the right LLM interfaces (which love large libraries of concise word-like primitives), world domination is assured.
How about a ZeptoFORTH-MCP bridge (to implement services in ZeptoFORTH that can be called by local or remote agents) and an official way of programmatically configuring and interacting with an LLM, like on a Jetson, from ZeptoFORTH?
did Ive just land $6B+ for incarnating "Dr. Theopolis"?
Yes, https://youtu.be/1ZCxXjDlaf8 yes, I think he did... Good on Him! :DMaybe try OpenAI GPT-4o or Google's Document AI https://cloud.google.com/document-ai
NeXTStep was real UNIX, but macOS is not.
BTW, I was taught to program in C by one of the original core Unix team members and I worked for DEC long before I could have discussed TesseractOCR with people who didn't. Keep those ignorant downvotes commin'
If they're going to "Ask HN", they should ask something like "what are most others doing in regards to X" because that's the only information that can be accurately gleaned in this kind of environment; otherwise, consider asking Reddit/Gemini. https://youtu.be/V-SJQdREDKM
Why not use Ollama-OCR?
"dead things should stay dead" - Pet Cemetery, Steven King
If you want to have some fun from 1979, I highly recommend FORTH. It's really good and would have taken over the universe (lowercase u) had K&R C not dropped as part of the slow motion train wreck known as Unix (not to be confused with Linux). https://hackaday.io/project/170826/logs?sort=oldest