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There is no such thing as unskilled labor.

This makes no sense.

It's not arbitrary when black folk were specifically enslaved and segregated due to the color of their skin, and therefore developed a culture around that shared experience.

If we enslaved people based on their baldness for a few centuries and then kept discriminating against them for another century, I am sure they would have their own culture born from that shared experience.

That doesn't follow from what I said at all. But you pretty clearly aren't trying to discuss in good faith, so there isn't much point in arguing.

No, it isn't. British in India were colonizers who sought to divide and subjugate the Indian population. The PoC who live in Europe aren't there to colonize it. They are part of the population and therefore the culture.

Who cares who invented it? Do you think babbage designed the fabs TSMC uses now?

You said it. European culture. PoC have lived in Europe for ages. So, no, you can't say 'European/white', as that erases huge groups of people and is factually wrong.

People are buying them to resell to all the chuds. It’s not some grand plot.

How is that the most important part? Slavery is already illegal outside of prisons. You know very well this is so companies can cut employees whenever they need to and not face legal repercussions.

How is fiat on the way out? Seems like a bold claim to make with no evidence.

Also, how do you tackle the environmental effects of crypto?

Does the concept of a collective confuse you?

I'm not here to propose alternatives. Merely to call out some worship of capitalism. Smarter people have written about alternatives. Maybe join the Marxist group at your school and you might learn some!

> Why did the colonials, when they arrived in west Africa, find they had basically done nothing for thousands of years?

This is so racist and imperialistic, really bad take.

> Capitalism brought you the computer you are typing on.

Soviets had computers too, ya know.

Where did all this prosperity happen if the US isn't a capitalist country? Give an example of what you consider a capitalist country, please.

> They are able to choose to do those things because capitalism has created massive surpluses that allow people to survive on a relatively small amount of labor. This creates a surplus that can be directed towards leisure or given to the less fortunate.

How many people work two plus jobs? How many have to do gig work to make ends meet? Capitalism has created massive surpluses and free time, for the capitalists.

> Its true there are a handful of susbsistence level societies that do not rely on capitalism for anything but they are in danger of being assimilated and exterminated.

By capitalists looking to exploit them.

> While I disagree with you that is an accurate statement of the facts; surely you can see that allowing concentrations of wealth is a social norm that you consider to be a problem.

No, it isn't a social norm. What definition of social norm are you even using here? It is a direct consequence of capitalism.

> The material conditions that result from capitalism are widespread prosperity; conditions deteriorate when the oligarchs convince you to allow them to use the government to redistribute the wealth of the middle class.

Half the globe lives in poverty. More and more in the US are living in poverty. Wages have stagnated while productivity has increased. There isn't widespread prosperity by any definition. You've been watching too much PragerU if you honestly believe this.

Capitalism doesn't fuel everything. People do things for lots of reasons outside of money or generating surplus.

The problem isn't social norms. The problem is untethered capitalism allows concentrations of wealth and power with no check on it. Those capitalists then stoke fascism to retain power once material conditions have decayed enough due to that concentration of wealth.

Capitalism fuels imperialism, and fascism.

You’re ignoring the material conditions of people since 2000. The steady decline of that is more likely to do with suicide rates than failures of psychiatry.

The lazy worker argument applies to any job. I work in a F500 and have 'lazy' coworkers. I can't just go to my manager and get them fired.

So... the same as most corps?

Everything you said negative about them applies to corporations as well. Not sure why you single unions out on this.