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>These avg Joe will not have 'Delhivery accounts' to ship. EBay is for infrequent non traditional online sellers.

Did you ever try? A lot of web shops are being run in India by average Joe now, sometimes take a look at Google shopping tab.

Signing up for delivery business account is not smth you need much for, anyone can sign-up and start today.

Okay so you don't want to sign up for Delhivery account, sign up for ShipRocket (it's just an account sign-up like any website). Upload your shipment dimension and they'll arrange pickup and deliver your goods.

>but I know that they in their dreams will not use eBay if it was there in India.

They'll depending on what they are selling if they are selling consumer goods, they can sign up with Amazon but if they are selling smth more niche, they'll benefit greatly from product discovery that comes with a website like eBay, unless they've a recognizable brand and enough money to spend on advertisement and marketing a guy with an eBay account can get a lot of sales.

Honestly most guys will will not be shipping 50kg item from get go. To ship small 1 or 2 kg item they can approach nearest courier service and if they've a few of these Packets, courier offers pickup from your premise.

For small packets, price variation among different courier providers isn't much to fuss about. Only at higher weight levels, the delhivery/safe express standout from the competition.

So here's the process:

1. Sign up for ShipRocket

2. Pack your goods and wait for it to be picked up and delivered

How can we make it easier than this? Next step is only that a courier company reads your mind and picksup unpacked goods, pack it and deliver it to customers using teleportation. There isn't room for making it easier than this, just saying.

A person who can't be bothered to do is, has any place in business? What he deserves to make money for if he can't given do this.

I am a guy from a small city near Delhi with not much resources and I still manage to ship goods and make good money that I left my job, if I can do it, anyone can.

>Ebay doesn't handle this well in the US either. I would love to use ebay as a junkyard metasearch engine.

But you can find people who scavenge junkyards and are listed as sellers on eBay who do sell used bench grinder (maybe after restoring them!?), Induction motors, industrial brushless motors etc... In India even that is also not easy to find.

Also one key thing is that Flipkart only saw eBay as a threat that could be bought by competition and eBay was a known brand and nearly every online person in India knew about it.

Just to remove this possibility of being used as a weapon in competition's hand, they killed it.

They certainly didn't understand the whole use case of eBay like website but killed it because it was possible to use it for competition in consumer goods space considering it had many things that were being sold on Flipkart too

Yeaa Amazon here is best in small towns of India. In my town they've bought a warehouse at Industrial area and their trucks arrive before 7am.

I place order before 2pm and my orders arrive at my desk next day before 11am, arrives in my town at 7am.

> For eBay kind of model where the seller has to pack and ship items themselves, it would be a nightmare. The govt postal service is highly inefficient and the private players are not organized for door to door logistics.

Amazon doesn't package and ship your items if it weighs over 30kg, you've to fulfill orders on your own if it's larger than 30kg.

>Try shipping few metal parts weighing 1Kg+ yourself to any random address to understand perhaps that is the most difficult part of the problem.

Not true! India has changed. I've shipped over 300kg per shipment no problem. I've a business of shipping industrial parts and we regularly ship median weight of 50kg

I am not sure how old was your experience, leave the government services. We ship with delhivery and safe express

Who are you shipping with? And when did you try? Today you can easily get the shipping rates we are getting by signing up for Delhivery's business account the more you ship the cheaper it becomes but man we are no longer living in dark ages of IndiaPost parcel times anymore

Flipkart is an Indian e-commerce VC funded giant like Amazon, it's nearly same just that it operates only in india.

Flipkart has a history of buying and shutting down businesses.

Yes, I think it's simply because those who have ability to make it happen have never needed anything to buy used (considering all startups founders in India are from software field and rich enough to buy everything new or they live in a big city where they don't have this problem, they can drive to near junkyard or market and find nearly everything)

Okay I am only guessing, the historic reason is listed in another subcomment on my original post.

We can say startups didn't bother with it because eBay India was already operating in market before startup culture was even here in India.

Back in time eBay was operating in Indian market and eBay was successful as the payment service used on eBay was PayPal, buyers had protection in India which they couldn't get with any other local website as online payment infrastructure was in dark ages in India at that time.

After that India rapidly grew in e-commerce and payment platforms rapidly developed (now they are at par with western ones or we can say even better and payment regulations also improved a lot). Now logistics has also improved a lot, so we can receive goods in just 1 or 2 days in any part of the country. We've new expressways, freight corridors, capacity expanding rapidly so now even more businesses is possible in India yet we are leaving the obvious one out. Where are all my Indian executives, investors, guys from IITs are doing? Why they aren't working on this?

Then Flipkart buys eBay India and shuts it down.

And now there exists market vaccum. Everyone is looking at each other, no startup founder doing anything about it. Existence of eBay alternative will add great efficiency to India market, reduce its CO2 footprint as well when used products find buyer instead of destroying and remelting them.

It's absolutely shocking India where startup competition is huge has no eBay.

Basically there's no way to buy anything in secondary market, yes OLX or Quikr etc... exist but they are limited to only people around you (in same city) and do not facilitate payments or logistics or even reviews.

Now someone can make their own website but product discovery is pain and buyers can't trust reviews on website owned by the single seller, neither can trust the refund will be honoured as you need Escrow to deal with the unknown sellers.

India has people who are interested in saving money and buying second hand tools/machines is an option yet it has no eBay or alternative as if startups in India have a blindspot.

For example, I live a town with population of 500K (200km away from Delhi) and while repairing my car, the mechanic told me he will go to Delhi and try getting the spare part from Junkyard owners.

Maybe guys from Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore don't have this problem but majority of Indian population still lives in small towns and villages where finding 1 used part at affordable price can save a business or medical equipment (life). What are the technical people in small towns are supposed to do? Run to Delhi and Mumbai each time you need a spare part?

Such a waste of human efforts, my mechanic could have instead bought it on eBay from a junkyard owner who is also a seller on ebay through courier if eBay like website existed.

Lemme give you another example, sometime back I was interested in a product from Mobil which only comes in 230L barrel packaging, I need only 2liters of this stuff and there were many sellers on eBay selling it in used Coke/Soda bottles, but I couldn't buy it because I am from India.

Similarly, our junkyards are filled with useful servos, PLCs etc..., linear rails, valves but it's hard to find buyers for the junkyard owners because there's no online marketplace for this

India imports millions of tons of waste from foreign countries yet the stuff that's harvested from it has very inefficient market.

This is holding back innovation as you can build lots of cool things from the used machinery/tools which cost wayyy less than the new stuff.

Barbarian is simply someone who does not (some might say, they don't because they simply cannot) verbally articulate deep thoughts and views on a topic.

It does not mean such people do not posses intelligence for this, it's just a cultural difference they might choose to keep their thoughts to themselves or see no point in convincing others through discourse if the power is established through sword.

I thought china was rich enough and had huge internal demand for its produced goods.

But it's banning cryptocurrency to save its economy? Doesn't seem like their economy is robust enough now.

I live outside of US, precisely India and see many videos of Ring on YouTube which are marketed as avoided huge loss because of ring

Funny thing caught by ring

At some point even I wanted to install ring then I realized I live in India.

Good on them for their crazy and viral YouTube marketing.

Since I am working from home, half day I am writing code, other half day I am doing machining on mill and lathes.

My performance on code related work has shot up, you need an escape to increase your productivity. Sitting at a desk all day will not make you productive.

I just ask one question:

Who do you think politicians have their dinner with? Is it a middle class tax paying person or some rich businessmen friends?

Who will get his sympathy? Extrapolate from there.

This is if you are a startup founder, it makes sense to accept investment, this brings the tax dodging practises which those people already know about and now it's available to you too

My theory is FANGS pay more because it's a casino like setup.

Yes, their employees are making lot of money but where her money ends up going? A large part of that ends up paying rent in a region where there are many others making similar wages like you, and trying to outcompete you out of the best property you can choose to live.

Mostly people at headquarters or major offices get paid large salaries.

Executives make decisions where to open office, they've upphand on the info and have access to money, they buy the land in and around the region where office will be setup, where their employees will want to live.

That way half the money they pay ends right back into pocket of executives while FANG employees have statisfaction of making highest engineering wages.

It doesn't matter how much you make, if you still find yourself doing the same thing you were doing 5 years ago, perhaps, all that money didn't bring you much.

Now, there are exceptions to this where people saved up their salary and launched another business into huge success, yea those benefit the most. But most of the FANG employees will find themselves doing similar job after 5 years, so...

How exactly that extra money has changed your life? Are you driving Buggati or Bentley to your office? Do you have celebrities (male/female -depending on your orientation) caressing your hair while you hack on the code? Did you start a school to teach underprivileged kids?

As we can see most of these luxuries are still not available to majority FAANG employees regardless of how much they make. It's the money on paper, it doesn't buy much power. To have real power in society, having more money than your peers is not necessary - what you need is vastly more money and influence over other people.

By doing this we are conditioning kids to not have privacy, later when they grow up - they'll come to accept lack of privacy because it's something they grew up with, first it was their parents spying on them, now it's tech company and government and their advertisers spying on them

But your data doesn't account whether women wanted this arrangement or not, the way things are now clearly demonstrates women wanted greater freedom even if they've to leave their home and kids, so this what it is happening.

How do you even go into debt with something like TeamViewer.

Then why not start a company if the grass is sooo much greener on other side.

It's true you can claim a lot as expense and register zero profits but only when you really don't have money.

People forget, Amazon gets its money from stock market - this money is someone's pension funds and savings, they are investing because people believe Amazon will one day then profit, they don't care about these losses.

So what's the alternative? Prevent people from investing into profitable things?

They already do.

And anyone selling through any platform where they've all data let it be supermarket chain or e-commerce platform, should understand the risk that their data can be used to compete with them if you realize risk is not worth pay off, prefer selling on own website - it's not hard these days. No I mean, yes it's still hard to get eyeballs on your product but to list in Amazon, you need to pay Amazon tax.

Amazon is far from only being software atleast in India.

They've such a volume here in India that since Amazon has got here, traditional LTL logistics soared in price wayyy higher

Amazon has completely revolutionised logistics here in India, you'll have hard time sending a box from point A to point B cheaper than what Amazon offers.

We are at a point where Amazon sells things much cheaper shipped to your door than a shop near you. (If you don't live in a metro city highly likely, the price which Amazon offers, local shops simply can't beat them)

And in India something like 60-70% people live in small towns and villages, traditional family owned distribution networks are failing to compete with Amazon, yes the ones which power most of the shops in the town.

I maintain, the traditional family owned distribution networks were even more exploitative (screwing over both customers and their workers) in India atleast compared to what Amazon offers.

Amazon delivery agent here are guys from low economic class and often from villages nearby. I am glad my purchases are helping these people survive than the "several property owning shopkeeper near me" competing with me in the real estate market while simultaneously ripping me off on the price on various tools.

Few years ago I was working for such family owned distribution networks and I never seen such miseries in life, truckers were often not paid at time, often driving trucks which hardly get any service (dangerously), the axel could become rocket anytime while on road. Amazon has only brought best practises to us, they've regular vehicle maintenance schedule, drivers get paid on time. Amazon delivery agents are some of the happiest people I've met despite working so hard, they are always smiling while delivering stuff to me.

The distribution agents were regularly fired without payment (it's not completely organized sector so lots of labor operate in grey area, where if they don't get paid don't have any legal recourse and most likely no one will believe if they ever worked for the person they are claiming to have rendered their service to. I am glad, the nepotistic and exploitative power nexus of family owned distribution networks is dying.

Easy return was never available in India, and you risked getting "death stares" from the shopkeeper if you ever returned anything to him because of quality issues of the product.

Other than this, most of the times I had seen "young girls" walking into market and getting "40% discount" by some thristy shopkeeper and they wouldn't do same for a guy ever, atleast this form of descrimination is dying with Amazon.

And honestly speaking, if a lot of Amazon executives in Bangalore and Gurgaon are getting rich, it's well deserved for what they've done for the nation.

I forgot to mention, we've many Amazon competitors but primarily Flipkart - well, getting them to replace/return anything has been tough for me, maybe because I live in a small town, I don't say but I get all my packages in 2 days from Amazon (without prime), while Flipkart takes 5 days here minimum.

What would I like to see Amazon change?

1. Make it possible to sell low value items which cost less than 200 and aggregate it before it's shipped to customer and charge customer shipping on aggregate weight shipped for these small combines. Sometimes it's very difficult when you've to order small items and pay 150-200 shipping on each item. These can be "no return combine", I will not bother returning such low value item, so Amazon saves overhead and additional costs.

2. Please revolutionze hardware space for retail buyers, stuff like "steel sheets, MDF, nail, bolts, nuts" - we don't have any Homedepot or Lowe's, we really need it and my hope is only on Amazon. Other countries like US has Homedepot where u can get most of the hardware fittings while this space is seriously lagging in India, everyone uses different naming for a spare part, etc...we don't even have anything like "McMasterCarr".

If we vaccinate everyone, aren't we selecting for the virus mutations in which the vaccine doesn't work, can we possibly make virus more advance this way?

During first wave, many people would have savings. After that they expected recovery but now stuck in 2nd wave.

Price of things that people want have shot up considerably while for most income source has dried up.

Psychologically average Indian young person is more unhappy and unstatisfied than ever, this is both because of lack of new opportunities and employment and now Indians are able to see on YouTube and compare living standards to people in foreign countries, psychologically most Indians are devastated because of this new found info.

When you are in doom and gloom state, probably immune system also doesn't perform quite as well and it doesn't help that even basic medicines and healthcare facilities are not available to many of us in India now.

Some people don't only look at market cap, they look at trade volume which again can be faked using wash trading.

A lot of people don't know how to use engine braking, I guess teaching them that is going to significantly increased your brake pad life on existing vehicles in circulation.

Remember there are 3 brakes in your car, handbrake, foot brake and engine braking.

Poors are screwed doesn't matter if it's EU, UK or US or even Africa.

Only the magnitude of screwed differs.

I've come up with an idea that we should do a swap, where a rich person is allowed to be rich for 2 years then a poor person takes his place.

So the richest person swaps his place with the poorest one and vice versa.

Offtopic: as someone from India, I've seen a lot of American farms and farmers on YouTube but I don't see British farmers on YouTube, why is that?

I've never experienced this "disgust" for anything in life.

Is it possible in some people it's absent?