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In the discussion Linus is providing his suggested code, which is literally "just a builtin addition", but your opinion is that "He says that you can't use builtin addition".

OK, sure.

So which is it? Does ranting have a huge impact that keeps people out, or does it "not have the power"? And if it's powerless, why are you so eager to censor it, then?

Also, why don't you keep in your lane and only oppress the Go community with your code of conduct? There's no need to also invade Linux.

Give it an hour.

You are committing a logical fallacy. I'm not "the voice of HN", nor am I a representative sample of "what HN thinks".

This is just my opinion.

Using a builtin operation ("addition and comparison of integers") is always safer than using a function that may or may not work the same everywhere. I.e. a nonstandard function.

Also, the proposed code has more levels of indirection, therefore places a higher cognitive load on the reader. These things tend to result in bugs down the road.

And it is also true that "an overflow could still happen", which is mentioned in Linus' critique.

All of these are objective ways to measure how "safe" the code is.

Are you saying that the claim that the new function "is nonstandard" is false?

I would argue exactly that, yes. If you don't understand basic things about code clarity and safety, you're not ready.

The Linux Kernel doesn't exist to validate your opinion of yourself, but to literally support the world's software infrastructure. Which is more important.

Code being safe or unsafe is a pretty objective metric of quality, methinks.

Linus's rant is literally entirely based only on why that is wrong.

They... should be offended? Because it was a bad idea that ruins the Linux Kernel. Kernel development isn't for everyone.

Funny how the author "will moderate comments" and the only comments left are those who uncritically agree with them.

Nobody will try to pull that shit again for quite some time.

The "Constructive" version will be handwaved by submitting the same code again and giving literally any deflecting excuse like "You're just afraid of using new technology like this function.

WhatsApp innovated by smart use of technology within the limits of how real social interaction works.

Twitter innovated by redefining how social interaction works - and then proceeded to slowly grow bloated and cashless.

Well, it seems that idea has failed now. Why else would they be cutting costs?

Perhaps that is the lesson to be learned? That technology with limits... scales?

If you want to "do social", do it for small groups. Nobody really has 40 000 friends, so why bother with the use-case that is literally only used by advertising companies?

Haha, yes. Microsoft has always delivered things that are "better" than the standards they are written against.

Censorship always starts small.

"one file isn't going to make a difference"

That's what they all say, every single time.

Holy shit, this entire comment chain is cancer.

Literally nobody commented on the actual content of the OP.

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"It's too slow" is not a trivial problem to solve. Anything but.

At some large companies the simple act of making a commit takes the better part of an hour. Same with checking out, updating, etc.

This has serious implications for the development style and productivity. At the very least, not every developer can adapt to such a style.

Or at the very least move your headphone-mounted microphone near your mouth.

It's true, and soon there won't be.

So... you are saying that if a whiner contributes at least 1/1000th as much as a normal person, the whiner is better for humanity?

I'm not sure I follow...

Counterpoint:

"Corporate culture" environments where everyone is at "Stepford Wives" level of jollyness rarely get much done.

What you know is false, sorry.

Every large number sounds impressive, don't get yourself caught in that mind-trap. Divide the number by their employees, check earnings/winnings, subtract investments, compare to other companies and draw your conclusions again.

If I make $1000000/year, that's great. But if it takes me 1000 people to do it, that's less than $100 per person per month.

Uhm, Apple does actually provide easy root shell access to what is essentially Unix.

And the APIs to customize your desktop experience are much more permissive than what Windows allows. Or at least the Desktop customization apps do much more than their windows equivalents.

I'd say that having usable defaults is better than having easy customization. People who customize to that level don't care about it being "easy"(myself included).

wat?

Note that it powers a usb device. Every single iOS device and every Android device that I know of have a USB on one end of the cable.

Also, is anyone really innovating in Laptops these days? Is there a reasonable expectation that something like "A new type of charger" can even happen in the next 12-24 months?

Or you could, you know, just download it.