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And maybe Jack Ma should also have advocated for Taiwan's submission to China like Musk did: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/08/elon-musk...
Or a boycott of their products. Save America: don't buy Tesla.
https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-comment-questioning-court-...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gx3j5k63xo
This isn't a new idea for J.D. Vance. He was saying the same thing 3 years ago:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right...
The philosophy behind this thinking comes from Curtis Yarvin. He believes American democracy is a failed project and it should be replaced with an American monarchy:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23373795/curtis-yarv...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin
America fought a war of independence to rid itself of monarchy. Yarvin and Vance want to bring it back.
https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-comment-questioning-court-...
He shouldn't be CEO of Tesla. He doesn't work there anymore.
These systems encourage people to stop paying attention. There will never be perfect vigilance or perfect reaction time from the driver.
That's exactly what's happening when people flag articles like this.
So what's the plan to achieve reflective flagging?
There's no point giving Musk more money, power, and influence. He's now calling for the impeachment of judges because he thinks they're in his way:
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5134725-elon-musk-impe...
He wants any opposition or limit or restraint to him gone. Here's an interview with Kara Swisher about Musk's mentality that's worth watching:
Three years ago J.D. Vance and others were already thinking about this and anticipating court cases:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right...
To quote the article: “I think Trump is going to run again in 2024,” [Vance] said. “I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people.” “And when the courts stop you,” he went on, “stand before the country, and say—” he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order—“the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”
They've been preparing themselves to ignore judicial rulings and they may well do that.
Musk is an authoritarian by nature. Here's an interview with Kara Swisher on his radicalization and his efforts to dismantle the US government: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xXLycFv5Gc
Why is Musk suppressing free speech on X: https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/03/musk-shows-us-what-actua...
> so don't be so quick to judge Musk.
He's got over a decade's worth of lies behind him now. When someone is of such weak character that they feel the need to lie about being good at video games then there's not much more to say.
> He probably knows more about the wildfires than you do
He doesn't. He endorses conspiracy theories.
Carl Sagan was right. You're no longer able to distinguish between what feels good and what's true.
Many outlets have reported on Musk's LA fires lies. Pick the one you like. Here are some:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnhyatt/2025/01/29/musks-x-pl...
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/01/los-angeles-fire...
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/los-angele...
https://www.mediaite.com/news/elon-musk-deletes-tweet-agreei...
https://www.wired.com/story/maga-blaming-dei-california-wild...
Alex Jones loved getting the endorsement from Musk.
Also flagged dead.
What, your claim is that libertarians suppress speech? Explain why Musk is censoring speech on Twitter.
Musk is authoritarian by nature. He always has been.
> “Misinformation” is a very subjective word
It isn't. It's lies, falsehoods, and untruths. Here are some of the lies Musk has spread:
- Lies about Paul Pelosi: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/30/business/musk-tweet-pelos...
- Lies about the recent LA fires: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/01/10/elon-mu...
- Lies about USAID: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250202-musk-brands-u...
- Lies about how good he is at video games: https://english.elpais.com/technology/2025-01-24/elon-musk-a...
And so on and so on. He never stops lying. He can't help himself. There's something wrong with him.
> Don’t forget that the media have a vested interest in denigrating Musk, because he’s their most significant competitor, and while X exists, and we’re able to hear directly from influential people, the legacy media is powerless to control the narrative.
This kind of conspiratorial thinking won't get you anywhere.
Carl Sagan worried this would happen to you (https://www.openculture.com/2025/02/carl-sagan-predicts-the-...). Sagan said, "I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time — when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness"
And, sure enough, it has.
It may well end up being re-flagged.
Eh? Without artificial super intelligence the future is a nuclear wasteland? How does that follow?
Why wouldn't an artificial super intelligence conclude that humans are the problem and nuke the lot?
Or spiteful, authoritarian non-politicians taking power, spreading misinformation, and censoring free speech:
https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/03/musk-shows-us-what-actua...
It isn't about messaging. It's what the current administration (which Musk is a part of) is doing.
This article is about the current administration stopping funding for EV chargers.
> Not everyone is paying attention
Yes. You should start paying attention. If you're serious about the fight against global warming, if you truly believe it's an existential threat, then you can no longer buy Tesla.
The administration Musk is part of sure doesn't. It is halting permits for renewable energy projects and stopping funding for EV chargers:
https://apnews.com/article/wind-energy-offshore-turbines-tru...
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5105492-trump-...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20px1e05w0o
If you actually believe in global warming then you can longer buy Tesla.
> you wouldn't let your hatred for Musk hurt any company that is helping our fight against global warming.
Your bizarrely submissive attitude won't save the planet. You can submit to Musk if it helps you. No one else should.
There are plenty of other EVs to choose from. Buy one of those.
Good grief. Can you hear yourself? Can you see what you're writing?
This bizarre weak submissiveness is exactly how you end up with an autocratic state.
Hacker News has its fair share of irrationality.
I submitted an article about efforts to undermine Wikipedia: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42962971
But it was flagged and locked to commenting.
Wikipedia is one of the internet's greatest projects. Hacker News apparently doesn't have the stomach to discuss the threats to Wikipedia.
It has suspended renewable energy approvals on public lands: https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5105492-trump-...
And it's quitting the Paris climate agreement so it can "drill, baby, drill": https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20px1e05w0o
If you're serious about addressing climate change, you can no longer buy Tesla.
https://electrek.co/2025/02/06/trump-just-canceled-the-feder...
If you care about the world (or even just America), don't buy Tesla.